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pea007 Fri 17-Dec-21 18:05:03

This is going to be a bit of a hot potato and I’m not sure if it’s been discussed before here we go:
Have you declined the Covid vaccine? If so, could you explain why because I don’t understand?

Lucca Fri 17-Dec-21 18:44:46

Could be interesting ….

EllanVannin Fri 17-Dec-21 18:49:28

Yes, I declined the second after a bad reaction to the first.

Hetty58 Fri 17-Dec-21 18:53:53

pea007, I'd really like to know too. I've heard some very strange, totally illogical 'reasons' so far.

FarNorth Fri 17-Dec-21 19:21:14

I have had all the vaccines.
A relative has had two, then declined the booster.
This is because she had a bad reaction to the two, related to her diabetes. She doesn't want that again and is also afraid that it is worsening her diabetes long term.

Marydoll Fri 17-Dec-21 20:16:15

I'm the opposite, I had to convince my GP to let me have the second vaccination.

I had two severe reactions, which put me in bed for three weeks each time, probably because I am immunocompromised and have a history of adverse reactions to medication.
However, I still had a third primary vaccine, because I am ECV and the alternative was even worse. I intend to have my fourth one in February.
My consultant explained exactly what would happen to me if I caught Covid. ⚰️ For me it is a no brainer.

Sago Fri 17-Dec-21 22:41:42

I have had two vaccines bit am unsure about the booster as my SIL has developed 2 blood clots after the Moderna.

Also my husband has an IGA deficiency and as I understand it he shouldn’t have the booster but a 3rd vaccination our practice don’t seem to know anything about this.

I may have the booster after Christmas but only after I have tested negative for Covid.

FarNorth Sat 18-Dec-21 03:32:02

Sago refer them to the NHS website - www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-vaccine-3rd-dose/

A 3rd dose is the same vaccine as a booster, but the patient should then have another one as a booster later on.

DiamondLily Sat 18-Dec-21 05:05:02

I had the first two (Pfizer), no reaction, other than a sore arm. The booster, which was Moderna, literally knocked me off my feet for a week - I felt dreadful.

It’s put me off having another one, if we need to.

Scentia Sat 18-Dec-21 05:26:42

I have had all three and ANY reaction apart from death must be better than the alternative. ❤️

BlueBelle Sat 18-Dec-21 05:36:32

I had two Astra Zeneca followed by a Pfizer booster and had practically no reactions to any, a mild off feeling for a day, so mild I probably wouldn’t have noticed ordinarily
Like Scentia anything would have been acceptable

GagaJo Sat 18-Dec-21 05:47:30

DiamondLily

I had the first two (Pfizer), no reaction, other than a sore arm. The booster, which was Moderna, literally knocked me off my feet for a week - I felt dreadful.

It’s put me off having another one, if we need to.

First 2 were Moderna and I was ill with both. With the first one my arm was really painful for a week Third was Pfizer. No symptoms at all.

Hasn't put me off at all. I'll have everything available.

Jaffacake2 Sat 18-Dec-21 07:27:35

Scentia

I have had all three and ANY reaction apart from death must be better than the alternative. ❤️

I had an anaphylactic shock after 2nd vaccine and had treatment in resus of hospital. It's a hard call as I have severe asthma but have decided not to take the risk of having the booster. Mortality stats are similar for anaphylaxis and covid for me.

Whiff Sat 18-Dec-21 08:01:51

I am all for all vaccines. So having the 2 AZ followed by the Pzifer for my booster was a must. I have a nuerolocial condition which effects my limbs ,born with a heart defect and have PAF. But didn't hesitate to have the Covid vaccines plus my flu one. All my family have all had the vaccines.

Early on in the year my brother and sister in law had Covid before they could have the first jab . Had the appointment for the vaccine but caught it before hand . Both where seriously ill for 6 weeks. My brother has heart and lung problems my sister in law MS. My brother was so ill he dictated his will on his phone as he didn't think he would live to see the morning.

They have since had both first jabs and the booster plus flu jab.

My sister in has never fully recovered from having Covid as it effected her MS.

We all have to way the pros and cons. Yes I had side effects from my jabs. But I would have them all again. I haven't stop wearing my mask out since all this began last year, still keep my distance and gel.

Covid like flu is here to stay . I had the vaccines to protect me and those I love plus all the people who can't have them for medical reasons. Also the healthy people who are idiots and won't have them because social media says stupid things and they believe what is said .

I am sorry anyone who had bad reactions or can't have them. That's why I feel those of us who can must have them to protect these people.

When did it become acceptable not to care about our fellow man.

If I can help people I do . Because it's my way to pay back the people who have helped me. It might be only wishing someone good day. As you never know if you are the only person they speak to all day.

Stay safe and hoping you all have the best Christmas and New year you can.

Whiff Sat 18-Dec-21 08:07:37

Forgot to say had side effects from all Covid vaccines but would have them again . For me I would rather have the side effects I did than have Covid .

Ashcombe Sat 18-Dec-21 08:14:54

Whiff: you’ve summed up beautifully how many of us feel. I’m so sorry to hear how your relatives suffered but felt truly moved by the second half of your post. Thank you.

Marydoll Sat 18-Dec-21 08:27:04

A third primary dose is NOT the same as a booster.

A third primary dose of the coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine is being offered to people with a severely weakened immune system. This third primary dose is an extra ‘top-up’ dose to help increase the level of protection for people who may not have generated a full immune response to the first two doses and might be less protected than the wider population.

A third primary dose is different from a booster dose. A booster dose is an additional dose to extend the duration of protection from previous doses. NHS Inform.

There are certain conditions imposed on giving third doses

* According to the JVC, the third primary should be administered eight weeks after the second dose. Unfortunately this didn't happen for most of us. It took six months for me to get mine and only after organising it myself..

*The third dose must not be AZ, which has found to give only 40% of protection in some immunocompressed patients.

* If Moderna is given, it should be a full dose as opposed to a half dose for boosters.

* The vaccination must be recorded as a third primary on a patient's record, this then automatically triggers a fourth appointment in three months time for a booster.
I'm due one in February. I'm not holding my breath.

I hope this carifies that there is a difference, not in the vaccine itself, but in the management of it.

Jillyjosie Sat 18-Dec-21 08:47:06

Whiff I really appreciate everything you said in your post and I do agree with your question - when did it become acceptable to not help your fellow man (or woman).
I've had 2 × AZ, Pfizer booster and I paid for an antibody test which provided a good result. I'm due for a 4th booster in January.
Sorry to hear about the adverse reactions, I hate the false information on social media and I feel heart warmed by the good sense and calm response in this thread. Wishing a good and healthy Christmas to all.

Jillyjosie Sat 18-Dec-21 08:48:24

Thanks for that clarification Mary doll , I called my Pfizer jab a booster but it was as you say.

Baggs Sat 18-Dec-21 08:57:54

pea007

This is going to be a bit of a hot potato and I’m not sure if it’s been discussed before here we go:
Have you declined the Covid vaccine? If so, could you explain why because I don’t understand?

I read an interesting comment on another 'platform' this morning written by an anti-covid-vaxxer (which is a different species from total-anti-vaxxer) and, although I am triple-covid-jabbed, I understood where they were coming from. Not everyone refusing the covid vaccine is a nutter and taking the view that they are is unhelpful. I don't think anyone is going to change their mind if those trying to persuade them are condescending.

Santana Sat 18-Dec-21 09:00:37

It will take a brave anti vaxxer to post on here!
My friend's son, in his 30s, is in ICU with covid, in a terrible state.
Staunch anti vaxxer, with a sister fighting MS.
I really don't understand them, or why they are so disruptive at the vaccination centres. Security costs for our NHS trust is in the millions.
My family is all fully vaccinated, and I am so grateful to everyone who has made this possible.

MissAdventure Sat 18-Dec-21 09:03:23

As annoying as it is, nobody is at liberty to explain their health decisions to anyone else.

Baggs Sat 18-Dec-21 09:04:39

PS Do not read that as assuming the OP is being condescending. That isn't what I mean. What I mean is go and read what anti-vaxxers say and what has been discovered about their attitudes.

There is, for instance, a good article in the Times today describing "who are Britain's six millionvaccine refuseniks". It is a little assumptive but not terribly so.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 18-Dec-21 09:23:11

A lovely post from Whiff.
I had unpleasant reactions to my first (AZ) jab and to the booster (Moderna). But nothing compared to being hospitalised with Covid and it’s important to remember that vaccination protects not just us but others and gives the NHS a chance of being there for those who need them.
I know there are anti vaxxers on GN but doubt they will explain themselves on here.

Whiff Sat 18-Dec-21 09:29:58

Thank you all for your kind words. I never know when writing on various threads if I making sense. It makes sense to me. But I do ramble on but that's me ?. ?