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CBT61 Sat 18-Jun-22 07:49:45

I have Googled but not found a definite answer for U.K. so hope someone here might know-
If you are a pensioner without a diving licence or passport, what do you use as id? My 86 year old mum only uses her passport as Id at the moment but it will run out soon. Is there an alternative or must she renew it?

monk08 Sat 18-Jun-22 07:51:51

Bus pass has photo on plus any utility bill.

Niobe Sat 18-Jun-22 07:57:34

Might be worth her while to apply for a provisional driving licence and use that as an ID. No need to learn to drive.

glammanana Sat 18-Jun-22 08:01:49

I don't think she has to renew the passport your mum can use a Bank Statement showing her address or utility bill possibly from the last 6 months.
My neighbour showed his Council Tax bill when he needed proof of address and it was accepted.Hope you get it sorted as its quite expensive to renew a PP.

glammanana Sat 18-Jun-22 08:02:39

Niobe

Might be worth her while to apply for a provisional driving licence and use that as an ID. No need to learn to drive.

Great idea

Beautful Sat 18-Jun-22 08:45:09

Although I personally would be wary of using expired ID just check first. I have seen this on trip advisor , so copied it ... you could ask the company she needs to use ID & ask ... can only say one of 2 words yes of no. I worked in a bank many years ago & wouldn't then accept expired ID or provisional DL ... although things change ...

Expired or not, the passport is only being used as valid ID, not as a travel document, so should be acceptable.

Dickens Sat 18-Jun-22 08:54:41

... my local medical centre (GP) were perfectly happy to accept my expired Passport as ID in order to access their online system - it expired years ago.

I think, depending on who's asking for the ID, you should simply ask them what they will accept.

I think Beautful is right here - and I believe a utility bill is more often than not something that most institutions / companies will accept.

Rosiecat Sat 18-Jun-22 08:59:55

I was allowed to use my expired passport to fly from Gatwick to Glasgow.

Maggiemaybe Sat 18-Jun-22 09:18:43

It surely depends on what your mum needs proof of ID for? Perhaps check first whether her bus pass/birth certificate etc will do. A provisional driving licence isn’t free and isn’t always accepted as proof of ID.

annsixty Sat 18-Jun-22 09:46:14

I am in the same situation, both driving licence and passport expired. I also bank online and am paperless for all bills.

I have not yet needed to prove my identity but would have to take advice from the organisation asking as to what they will accept.
Very good question.

CBT61 Sat 18-Jun-22 09:47:38

Thanks for the thoughts. She hasn’t currently got a need for ID- just wants to be prepared!

silverlining48 Sat 18-Jun-22 09:50:55

Most countries certainly in Europe, have had id systems in place for years, everyone has a card to show as required for identification.
Hope your mum gets things sorted out, it’s awkward I know.

kittylester Sat 18-Jun-22 09:52:13

Bus pass is good. Passport better.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 18-Jun-22 10:12:41

Solicitors will want to see photographic ID and proof of address. They wouldn’t normally accept an expired passport or driving licence. If you don’t have paper utility bills you probably have something else which is acceptable proof of address such as a bank or building society statement, P60 or letter from DWP about pension or other benefits. Speak to whoever it is that is going to want to see evidence of identity well in advance to see what they will accept.

CassieJ Sat 18-Jun-22 10:23:54

You can get a citizens card. They cost around £15. My mum had to do this a few years ago as her passport had expired and she doesn't drive.

Chestnut Sat 18-Jun-22 10:31:27

The bus pass has a photograph and what about the latest Council Tax bill. No-one can argue with that. If you can't scan them then take a photo of both then you can submit them online.

shysal Sat 18-Jun-22 10:32:50

I renewed my passport when it expired for this very reason. I do not intend to travel abroad again. It has been useful for ID purposes as it can be verified online by giving the number to whoever needs it.

BlueSky Sat 18-Jun-22 10:37:31

Agree with GSM. Need to ask whoever as rules vary, some will accept utility bills others only valid passport or photo driving licence.

ExDancer Sat 18-Jun-22 10:39:10

I used an NHS hospital appointment letter, and my friend uses a bank statement, you can fold it so they can't see your cash transactions, or cover those parts if you're taking a photo.
It IS annoying, all our utility bills, rates, etc are in my DH's name.

Dickens Sat 18-Jun-22 10:44:11

silverlining48

Most countries certainly in Europe, have had id systems in place for years, everyone has a card to show as required for identification.
Hope your mum gets things sorted out, it’s awkward I know.

I had an ID card when I worked in Norway - it really makes life that little bit easier.

We do so much online now that paper bills etc are used less and less. Not everyone has a Passport or a Driving Licence.

However, we as a nation are opposed to the idea, for various reasons, so I doubt we'll ever go for that system.

Personally, I wouldn't mind having an ID card - ID is now needed so often and companies / solicitors / banks, etc, have different rules about what form of ID they will or will not accept. But obviously others are dead set against them... so that's the end of it really.

silverlining48 Sat 18-Jun-22 11:48:42

I wouldn’t have a problem with ID cards here, they certainly are helpful in many circumstances including legal situations.
Being stopped in the street here by police say, we could call ourselves whatever we liked and give a fake address dob etc and often get away with it.
No chance of that in Europe. They have to carry the cards at all times.

Redhead56 Sat 18-Jun-22 11:49:38

NHS number?

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 18-Jun-22 11:56:05

No that wouldn’t be enough. Photographic ID and proof of address is needed. I remember one firm I worked for had a black man produce a white man’s passport for his ID! Needless to say he was shown the door pretty quickly.

Dickens Sat 18-Jun-22 11:57:01

silverlining48

I wouldn’t have a problem with ID cards here, they certainly are helpful in many circumstances including legal situations.
Being stopped in the street here by police say, we could call ourselves whatever we liked and give a fake address dob etc and often get away with it.
No chance of that in Europe. They have to carry the cards at all times.

No chance of that in Europe. They have to carry the cards at all times.

Which is more or less the same as carrying your bank card(s) around with you, I guess.

I worked in Norway for 12 years and was never once stopped randomly and asked to show my ID... only used it for opening accounts, etc.

I hope CBT61's mother will have some bills with her name on that she can use - and will be accepted as ID... I think Council Tax ones usually are. It would be expensive to have to renew her Passport just to use as a form of ID!

Thoro Sat 18-Jun-22 12:07:44

I renewed my husband’s passport for this reason. I also changed his bank accounts from paperless so they send out bank statements with his address on.
All utilities etc are in my name! (he has dementia so I deal with his paperwork)