Identity documents

That’s right, carrying an ID card is not onerous, and does allow anyone to prove who they are if required.

I don’t understand why there’s such resistance to them. Well I do understand because the arguments are put forward by the usual suspects.

Have just sent off my passport renewal form (expired passport somewhere in the house, put away safely by late DH) because it is the most effective form of ID. Doubt whether I will use it to travel but you never know.

Hello, one of the usual suspects here .

In a time where the government are talking about deporting people they don't want to be here, or electronically tagging them like criminals. In a time when the government are trying to limit our freedom to protest. In a time when they are trying to limit access to the democratic process through making it more difficult to vote. In a time when the government are riding roughshod over all manner of UK and international laws.

You want to introduce ID cards. Because what could possibly go wrong? ??‍♀️

Nothing that concerns me. Perfectly happy to have an ID card and produce it when required, including at a polling station.

Nothing that concerns me.

it is thought that one of the reasons so many people, asylum seekers, are not content to remain in france, and take great risks to reach uk, is that uk is one of v few countries that does not have ID cards.

That is not considered to be the case by anybody who understands the situation. It explains it in the BBC article I posted on another thread.

An extract from that article:

It has been suggested that the UK's job market attracts migrants - a claim supported by the French Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin who said they could find work without needing identity papers. There aren't reliable surveys to support this though.

Marley Morris, an immigration expert at the IPPR think tank says the UK has introduced policies that make it harder to work illegally.

"While we don't have ID cards, the policies introduced make it much harder to work illegally, [and] employers are fined for employing someone for not having the right to work."

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Hello, one of the usual suspects here .

In a time where the government are talking about deporting people they don't want to be here, or electronically tagging them like criminals. In a time when the government are trying to limit our freedom to protest. In a time when they are trying to limit access to the democratic process through making it more difficult to vote. In a time when the government are riding roughshod over all manner of UK and international laws.

You want to introduce ID cards. Because what could possibly go wrong? ??‍♀️

... that's the difference between here - and Norway!

I wasn't even asked to produce my ID card when I was caught speeding in a tunnel (only a tad - couldn't see the speedometer) by the Police. Not even my driving licence... I just got a wagging finger.

Anyway, Johnson's totally opposed to the idea - or was at one time... as he said...

“It is perfectly obvious that the Government intends these ID Cards to one day be made compulsory. I want to make it clear that I will in no circumstances carry one and even were I compelled to do so, I would take it out and destroy it on the spot were I ever asked to produce it. It is a plastic poll tax that will do nothing to assist the struggle against terrorists and will hugely expand the powers of the state over the individual”. (2005)

Of course, he might have changed his mind since... after mulling over his own words in that last sentence ...