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41 year old son says I abused him

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norton Sun 16-Oct-22 19:32:03

He was 12 and beingg disruptive and didn't like the discipline. At the end of my tether I grabbed his arms and he remembers that I dug my nails in, I don't. He is now calling me a liar as I "chose" not to remember. He is also calling me a thief because I took some of his pocket money away and told him he had to earn it back through good behaviour. Not the best parenting but this was 20 + years ago and I was at the end of my tether. Did I abuse him? I feel I was probably heavy handed. I have apologised to my son abjectly, but I don't know where we go from here. I'm happy to do anything he wishes.

MissAdventure Sun 16-Oct-22 20:55:58

So short of apologising, what else can be done?
How many times in how many ways does someone need to express that they are genuinely sorry?

MissAdventure Sun 16-Oct-22 20:59:50

How do you reconcile todays gentle parenting with how it was done years ago?

It's like my mum having to apologise for having sent me out in a yellow smock dress, with my hair cut in a stupid "page boy" cut, then sending me to bed under a purple floral bedspread.

Norah Sun 16-Oct-22 21:11:48

Perhaps sort through how you apologized - no ifs, no buts, no shifting the blame to his behaviour - from your actions he disliked.

Admit you were wrong. Very wrong.

Ask what would be acceptable to move forward.

I apologize no matter what, if my daughters are unhappy with me for any minutia. I say that I'm sorry, what can I do to make that up to you?

Just my way. Works well, for me.

Quokka Sun 16-Oct-22 21:13:31

For heavens sake!

I know you don’t want to fall out with your son over this so ignore him and perhaps he’ll move on, but really….your nails may have dug in and you took away his pocket money?

He needs to put his Big Boy Pants on and get on with his life.

TerriT Sun 16-Oct-22 21:16:56

Because we were in the forces our son went to boarding school as we moved constantly and changeing secondary education e every two years would have been very disruptive to his education. When he had children he said to me he and his wife could never ‘send their children away to school’. It really hurt me as I didn’t want him to go anyway. Some years later when his sons were in secondary education he said he wished he could afford to send his boys as there was so much to do in the school he went to. All on site and loads of mates to do everything with! We do what we think is right at the time and in the circumstances we are in. Does he apologise for being such a challenging child? I suggest whilst you apologise you don’t let them make you feel you’ve done wrong. And certainly remind him of his behaviour. Cause and affect springs to mind.

Hithere Sun 16-Oct-22 21:21:44

OP

It takes a lot of courage to bring things like this to your parents, that could mean he wants to work it out with you and move forward

You two may have very different ideas of moving forward

I would be very worried the day he could decide these efforts are not worth it and he gives up trying to resolve it - this is how estrangement happens

crazyH Sun 16-Oct-22 21:25:11

Oh gosh - I was heavy handed with my children, just as my mother was with all of us. I have nothing but love and respect for the way my mother brought us up. We have all turned out to be very successful, with no anger or bitterness.
I have never apologised to my children…. all turned out well. They do remember those days …..not very fondly, I’m sure. But that’s how it was ………

V3ra Sun 16-Oct-22 21:26:25

There are times in a child's/teenager's life when they need their responsible adult to take charge of a situation.
Sometimes that can require physical intervention.
I doubt you meant to hurt your son.
You've apologised.
As a one-off I don't think you need to beat yourself up about it any more norton.

MissAdventure Sun 16-Oct-22 21:26:35

Just apologise for having been born.
That should cover all eventualities.

Norah Sun 16-Oct-22 21:39:38

He's 41, your son is 41, no longer 12 or even 32 (12+20).

This has bothered him and festered a long time.

Since you're "happy to do anything he wishes" -- Ask what he wants.

VioletSky Sun 16-Oct-22 21:42:03

I think that people look for 3 things in an apology because it's nit the apology its the forgiveness that matters

Being accountable

Understanding their position

Changing that behaviour

This is your son, this is a bond that is so painful to have break.

If there is any chance you are the one who has remembered incorrectly, because its either him or you or both and the truth was in the middle...

Then make it right with him so he can forgive

Wyllow3 Sun 16-Oct-22 21:51:52

I've just picked these quotes up as they stand out for me...

"What does your son think it needs to happen here to move forward?


For some people, ignoring the past does not work"

"Apart from an apology, what exactly is the son expecting?
"Ask him what he wants"

FWIW, I doubt he exactly knows. I do agree however that his wife, who suffered quite a bit, may have altered his thinking. it would be strange if she hadn't, but it accounts for it coming up now not when he was in his 20's.

a problem to me is that its not unusual in our culture nowadays to rush to Blame instead of understanding and accepting.

Of course where there is clear and strong abuse then blame is appropriate

...but not the fact that most of us carry hurts from less than perfect parenting inevitably, but it was good enough parenting.

hollysteers Sun 16-Oct-22 21:52:26

It sounds as if your son is overreacting to one incident.
It’s not as if if he had regular beatings.
My loving mother smacked me once in my unreasonable difficult moments as a teenager and it made not an iota of difference to our relationship. Times have changed and there is more sensitivity around parental issues.
Keep smiling, ignore it and as Noel Coward said ‘Rise above it”.

Hetty58 Sun 16-Oct-22 21:55:33

norton, none of us are saints and I well remember being at 'the end of my tether' too. Yes, on a few occasions, my four did get a smack or lost their pocket money, were grounded or sent to their rooms. The only one who is resentful, interestingly, has no children of his own. I have apologised for being a less than perfect mother!

Allsorts Sun 16-Oct-22 21:57:23

Hithere,, another harsh view from you of some ones parenting skills. It was not abuse, you can't have experience of a youngster who is disruptive, doesn't listen to you etc. Are you supposed to turn a blind eye, let him have free reign at 12. . At 41 why bring this up now, leave him to it as recollections vary. All one can do is their best at the time. You have apologised if he thinks you didnt handle the situation in the way he would have.

Hetty58 Sun 16-Oct-22 21:57:36

(and) I have friends who were seriously abused and/or neglected as children. They would swap with your son in a heartbeat.

sodapop Sun 16-Oct-22 22:13:25

For heaven's sake Norton has apologised to her son for something she did whilst under pressure. What more can she seriously be expected to do. There are not many parents who have not reacted in a way they regret later.
Take heart Norton you should all move on from this.

Hellogirl1 Sun 16-Oct-22 22:40:27

I know it`s frowned on these days, but my 5 were all smacked at various times in their lives, however, they don`t hold it against me now.

norton Sun 16-Oct-22 22:43:55

Thank you for all your messages, they really helped. He's called me tonight and we've met half way between his "memories" and my lack of remembering what happened. We've agreed to draw a line under it all now its been fully discussed and be kinder. He's taken back his harsh words and said he now realises it was all a bit strong. I said I was a bit heavy handed in disciplining him and shouldn't have been and now I've apologised and he has, we're all feeling a lot better Families!! Thank you again you lovely Grans for being such a support. x

Smileless2012 Sun 16-Oct-22 22:46:44

That's great news norton thanks for the update.

MissAdventure Sun 16-Oct-22 22:47:27

Ah, that's the best possible outcome.

Glad it's sorted. thanks

Hithere Sun 16-Oct-22 22:48:09

Awesome norton

Norah Sun 16-Oct-22 22:56:50

Well done getting the issues sorted!

Wyllow3 Sun 16-Oct-22 23:00:48

Big smile here. It's great its out in the open. I'm sure not every moment will be plain sailing but you have broken the ice - you can discuss things - wow. x

nanna8 Sun 16-Oct-22 23:33:18

Good ending, Norton, when it could have gone so very wrong. Congratulations to both of you.