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I'm feeling somewhat guilty....

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chicken Sat 15-Jul-23 14:39:47

....although I don't know why. Something weird happened today so let me tell you about it. My OH can no longer drive so I went to the village shop to get his paper and a couple of other bits. I went to the counter where I was behind a young man who was chatting to the young and pretty assistant. When he realized I was waiting, he apologized and told me to go ahead. I put my items on the counter, got out my bank card and he said" No, I'm paying" and promptly paid for my shopping as well as his. I protested but he waved away my attempts to refund him. Now I feel a mixture of emotions, shame, embarrassment, vaguely insulted and perplexed. I know I'm old but I'm fully mobile and in possession of all my faculties. Do I look poor? I don't think so and I'm always well groomed,neat and clean. It wasn't as if I was buying a reduced- for-quick- sale item. My purchases were a bunch of bananas, a tub of gourmet yoghurt and a copy of the Financial Times! I shall of course pay it on with donations to a food bank, but I wish he hadn't done this. I'd love to hear your opinions.....how would you have dealt with this situation?

TillyWhiz Mon 17-Jul-23 14:36:00

Heavens, that a gesture of kindness could cause such offence! Nothing to do with age at all: when I was young, I was walking with my boyfriend and a man came out of a garden with some roses he'd just cut. I looked at them with admiration and he spontaneously picked one out and gave it to me. I was really touched. Please have the good manners to accept spontaneous kindness graciously. The person giving wasn't being malicious or unkind, just happy with life and hoping to spread it further.

timetogo2016 Mon 17-Jul-23 14:41:17

He possibly felt guilty for holding you up.
I think it was a lovely gesture,he may already know the assistant,hence the chatting.

aggie Mon 17-Jul-23 14:42:01

I know how you feel , I’ve got myself into such a mindset that I rebuff all offers of help , I do thank anyone holding a door open ! But anyone offering to carry/fetch anything , gets an irritable no thanks , I can manage ! I’m my own worst enemy !

knspol Mon 17-Jul-23 14:47:07

I think that the 'pay it forward' thing is really taking off here now and that plus wanting to impress the young assistant was behind his gesture. Nothing at all to do with you or how you looked or what you were buying. I would have felt very uncomfortable too even though it was meant kindly.

Everythingstopsfortea Mon 17-Jul-23 14:47:58

I know how you feel as a similar thing happened to my husband and I. We were on our way home along the M4 when a pang of hunger lead us to MacDonalds at Reading services..Nobody can be that hungry I hear you say!🤣 Once inside we were navigating our way around the ‘self serve’ machine trying not to look too dim, when a young man next to us offered his help. We were of course very grateful, but then jokingly asked if he was going to pay for the meal as well, to which he responded ‘I already have’. We were totally gobsmacked and naturally felt really embarrassed. We tried desperately to pay him the £7.82 but he wouldn’t accept a penny. So very kind of him but like you, we felt our dynamic image somewhat tarnished. Although in our late 70’s, do we really look that needy?

11unicorn Mon 17-Jul-23 15:50:53

I too think it was probably a form of apology that he held you up, even if it was just a short moment.
It was meant as I nice gesture so take it as such - I am very very sure he did not mean to insult you or make you feel bad.
Take it in the spirit it was given and as you already said, you will pass it on.
Wished there would be more friendlyness and generosity in this world to go around. Smile and pay it forward.

Greciangirl Mon 17-Jul-23 16:11:32

It seems an odd thing to do. Pay for a stranger’s shopping.

Treetops05 Mon 17-Jul-23 17:34:34

If is a kindness thing, many people on FB do it. You didn't 'look' anything, he probably felt held held you up, and paying was the least he could do x

maddyone Mon 17-Jul-23 17:37:00

I think he did it because he kept you waiting. Simple as that. I would have accepted graciously.

Scarlettsnan Mon 17-Jul-23 18:04:04

Don’t be offended I hear about people doing this all the time . It’s just a gesture and you pass the kindness on by doing this for someone else…❤️

Shazmo24 Mon 17-Jul-23 18:28:44

Its called "paying it forward " where someone has blessed him and he in turn has done it to you - he may have also felt embarrassed by holding you up.
The nicest thing you can do is to do something nice by doing something for someone else

BlueBelle Mon 17-Jul-23 18:42:21

We were late for my operation and the car got stuck in mud wheels going round and round me and my daughter couldn’t move it getting really panicked A young man was going passed and I asked him if he could help he gave it his all getting quite muddy and practically lifted it out the mud
I put my arms round and gave him a kiss thanking him profusely He shrugged and said “Pay it on” After my daughter left me she saw an elderly man waiting for a bus looking very cold she offered him a lift to our town so she did pay it back

BlueBelle Mon 17-Jul-23 18:43:42

If only all life could be more like this every day what a better place it would be

Baggs Mon 17-Jul-23 18:46:27

This is not guilt. Guilt is for something you've done wrong. You have done nothing wrong.

Paraphrasing (and I'm not religious but it still holds for godlessness): "God loves a grateful receiver." Be one.

Saetana Mon 17-Jul-23 19:29:27

Pay it forward - that is what I do when someone does me a kindness, even if I didn't particularly want said kindness.

specki4eyes Mon 17-Jul-23 20:50:40

I would've said, "ooh you are AWFUL, but I LIKE you!", shoved him on the shoulder, hitched up my girly bits and minced off.gringrin

Nannina Mon 17-Jul-23 23:46:37

I think I would have asked why he was paying for my items and reacted accordingly, if it was because I was old I would have explained that I was financially viable, if it because he wanted to be nice I would have accepted and given the money saved to a local food bank/charity. I’d hate to be so affronted as to stop, even though misguided, philanthropy

JdotJ Tue 18-Jul-23 07:18:21

chicken

Yes, I did thank him and, yes, I shall pay it on but I still wish it had been for someone who needed help. I'm comfortably off, live in a lovely house and don't want for anything so am in a very privileged position and certainly don't need handouts.

But the gentleman didn't know that did he. Just accept his kind gesture. We don't need to know that you are desperate to pay the money forward/will donate to a foodbank etc etc. Just say thank you Kind stranger.

Treacletoffee Tue 18-Jul-23 09:18:02

Random act of kindness- l paid for an older man’s lunch once in memory of my lovely Dad

nanna8 Tue 18-Jul-23 09:25:17

I agree- random act of kindness and you should accept with grace. Probably nothing to do with trying to impress anyone, that is a rather mean way of looking at it.

NotSpaghetti Tue 18-Jul-23 09:34:25

JdotJ you are right - the man presumably had formed no opinion of chicken. He could not think she needed the ^Financial Times!

Farzanah Tue 18-Jul-23 09:49:28

M0nica

I am with the OP, I would feel uncomfortable. Howeve kind the gesture and whether he was tryingto impress the assistant or not, there is something patronising and self-regarding about the gesture. paying an old dears bill, poor old thing she probably only has state pension and will be grateful for it.

Plus seeing you as someone with no status as a person, just a stereotype he can patronise, look good in front of the assistant and walk off with a warm feeling of virtue at very little price.

I am totally with you on this one MOnica.
Kindness where it is needed is always to be applauded, but this was just patronising and possibly ageism.
Quite a different thing paying for shopping where someone in a supermarket for example, cannot afford to pay for all their items without putting some back.