Has anyone reported a non-taxed vehicle to the DVLA and did they take action?

Summerlove

Germanshepherdsmum

The man spoke to her, therefore OP could tell he wasn’t British. I have already made that point. Why so much heckling of her for a simple comment? In my area, which is out in the sticks, most Evri, Yodel and Amazon drivers are foreign.

How on earth can you tell by talking to someone for 30 seconds what their nationality is?

You neither know the length of the exchange nor how heavy his accent was - and nobody has presumed to identify his nationality.

Thank you Hetty, what nice comments. You must be having a bad day - I’m a generous person who does not make horrid remarks. Please read my previous post.

I have a large garden. The back gate is a long way and not visible from the door. I have a dodgy back. I cannot carry heavy parcels. I request and pay for delivery to the door. All other carriers do this. Throwing parcels at people’s feet and yelling at them is rude - perhaps you do not understand this although I can see why that would be.

If this driver hurtles around with no tax and therefore no insurance he is not only breaking the law, but is a DANGER to others so I have reported it. However I can no longer order from anyone who uses Evri as a carrier so I can’t completely forget all about this incident from an aggressive individual with whom you seem to feel sympathy. From the tone of your post I can appreciate why. I also understand why new posters disappear from GN very quickly.

25Avalon, I agree that the driving of many delivery vans is dodgy at best. (Here, an Amazon driver never closes the back doors.) They do their rounds in a very rushed and careless manner.

Still, the driver works for Evri - and not for you. If I'm in the garden (closer to their van than the house) then, of course, they'll give the parcel to me. I wouldn't dream of telling them to put it by (or through) the door!

Your later behaviour seems like a witch hunt to me - a (childish) desire to get your own back. Ok, so the van is untaxed, do report it - then forget it!

MayBee70

I chat to a lot of people usually when I ‘m walking the dog. And the conversations go off in all sorts of directions. But I often find myself happily chatting away and the person I’m talking to will slip in something about foreigners and I immediately want to end the conversation and walk away. Quite often there’s no actual reason for the subject of foreigners to enter conversation. It’s always puzzled me as it isn’t something I’d do myself. I used to go to the sauna at a time when several elderly men used to have a swim and sauna. And they used to talk about foreigners. So I started to go at a different time.And when I was still working the people in the waiting room would start talking about foreigners and I would have to go into the dispensary to avoid joining in with the conversation as they were blaming them for everything.

Exactly! People who throw the word “foreigner” around are looking for reasons not to like them. Fear of people who are different from you is quite an unpleasant trait.

Germanshepherdsmum

The man spoke to her, therefore OP could tell he wasn’t British. I have already made that point. Why so much heckling of her for a simple comment? In my area, which is out in the sticks, most Evri, Yodel and Amazon drivers are foreign.

How on earth can you tell by talking to someone for 30 seconds what their nationality is?

In my gym...
There are about 50% "foreigners" as defined by many so..even if its in some heads its not spoken.
But tbh they probably wouldn't join it if they felt that way. Given some of the workers are "foreign".

It's a great place to go as variety is spice of life and say in the sauna one ends oneself in interesting conversations. food, lifestyles, sometimes current affairs.

Maybe it depends where one is situated living and work wise?

I chat to a lot of people usually when I ‘m walking the dog. And the conversations go off in all sorts of directions. But I often find myself happily chatting away and the person I’m talking to will slip in something about foreigners and I immediately want to end the conversation and walk away. Quite often there’s no actual reason for the subject of foreigners to enter conversation. It’s always puzzled me as it isn’t something I’d do myself. I used to go to the sauna at a time when several elderly men used to have a swim and sauna. And they used to talk about foreigners. So I started to go at a different time.And when I was still working the people in the waiting room would start talking about foreigners and I would have to go into the dispensary to avoid joining in with the conversation as they were blaming them for everything.

Cressida

The thing that puzzles me about this bickering is just how did colour get brought into it.

On reading the OP my initial thought was that the driver was probably Eastern European.

Exactly.

Not disingenuous nonsense Fleurpepper. You obviously don’t know much about specialisms within legal practice.

You wonder who I was ‘in the past’. Unlike you I have not had a different identity on GN. I know you have had several. I only pick up your posts for reasons that I state at the time, but posts under past identities may of course colour my opinion,

'Not my speciality fleurpepper. '

disingenuous nonsense, and you know it.

Wyllow, not sure who GSM was in the past- but we all know she will jump on my posts every single time. Who is looking for trouble here?

Any lawyer, whatever their speciality, will know the importance of avoiding prejudice based on all sorts of criteria- race included.

Thank you to OP for saying nationality/race was irrelevant.

ImogenMac- cheap, very cheap.

The thing that puzzles me about this bickering is just how did colour get brought into it.

On reading the OP my initial thought was that the driver was probably Eastern European.

Thanks Imogen. Most apposite I think.

I have no intention to provoke but I do get fed up with people picking arguments for the sake of it. It happens so often on GN and always leads to nastiness. The OP just made a throwaway comment but it was seized upon by those looking for an argument. I am not looking for an argument. I couldn’t care less if her delivery person came from Mars.

Not my speciality fleurpepper. Your husband might have been a general practitioner. I was a specialist. I’m sure you understand the difference,

*GSM 👏🏻

FP
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Now GSM, calling it "silly" is just provocation.

Some of us hold strong genuine views on the matter that happen to be different from yours:

and we have every right to put them, and if necessary clarify what we are saying, if challenged.

Would be a lot easier if you did. As a lawyer - you know these things and prejudices do matter.

I've never looked like a foreigner, and I was bilingual in 6 months- oh and had to re-take my driving licence in full, in English and in outer London. Ta.

They obviously matter to you (as you keep reminding us). Frankly if someone can’t speak English very well and they have no learning disability they are, to me, very likely to be a foreigner. As you were once.

Can you now let this silly thing go?

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree utterbliss. People who report crimes are to be applauded - and yes, there are many who are always looking for the next thing to be offended by. Life’s too short.

as a lawyer (as you keep reminding us)- you know that these things DO matter, enormously.

Thank you Willow3- indeed. I lived for over 30 years in a town where this was evident day in, day out.

I didn't say the courier had limited use of English.

In that post I made general remarks that some UK citizens have limited English.

I was making a genuine general comment about assumptions in that post becuase "assumptions made" is pertinent to my overall point.

A25Avalon and others in this discussion are quite right that courier should have been reported for both rude, arrogant behaviour and not being insured.

But when it got to the stage of a post (ie where I first came into the discussion) that suggested he might possibly be checked for illegally working as as result of suspicions he was a "foreigner" - thats when I wanted make my point.
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I’m talking about your post of 13.42.06 Wyllow,

Germanshepherdsmum

I totally fail to understand your point. Non-white person with limited use of English not foreign?

At no point has Avalon said he had limited use of English. I have read every post.
An accent was mentioned.

Just found this:
What is the Old English word for foreigner?
In Old English, *:walbaz developed into wealh, retaining the inherited meaning 'a foreigner, more particularly a pre-Anglo-Saxon inhabitant of Britain who spoke Celtic or Latin or both'.

I can imagine the outrage if I called someone a walbaz

Callistemon21

welbeck

i don't think any are after one year ?

I think that is right.
You can exchange your driving license for a UK one if you are here for longer.

You have to resit both the written and driving aspects of the test again to get a Brittish license.. I've just witnessed my Indian neighbours( who have driven for many years in India) have to go through this process. Its rigorous!
Whats more , regardless of how long you have had a license in another country you are not allowed to be a passenger /teacher of someone learning to drive for 2 years after you pass the test!

I totally fail to understand your point. Non-white person with limited use of English not foreign?

You're missing my point.

A non- white person is not inevitably "foreign", the majority are not, including those with limited use of English,

.... and it led to the comment I picked up on, where it was suggested their legality to be working was questionable

In the current climate it is naive to think that it's not an issue and there is some kind of over reaction here from me as I have concerns in these current issues for the reaosdsns I outlined above, assumptions being made.