2year old DGS escaping from car seat

Because you appear to have missed the point that the OP is NOT the one having the difficulty, it comes over as patronizing!

...UNsafely!

Hithere

Patronizing? Oh please!

It is very common sense that if an adult cannot keep my child safe, that person will not be childcare

A grandma that lets a 2 year old do in a car and has no idea an adult is in charge, not the child, has no business taking the child anywhere

If there is a car accident and the child is harmed due to not being in the car seat, the adult is liable

Older is not always wiser

Tge OP is NOT the one struggling with the child seat issue; it's the mother of the child!!!

The OP has never said it was her. No other poster has suggested taking the child in a car safely!

loopyloo

Definitely needs an escape proof car seat. You can't rely on a 2 year old obedience. It's not a question of discipline.
Anything that distracts the driver could be fatal.

I agree.
A small child in our family was trying to escape her car seat, managed to open the car window and when her mother turned to remonstrate with her, she bumped into the car in front.
All were fine, thankfully. The small child is now a sensible 18 year old!

Hithere - in this case the person bringing the child in the car is the child's mother. Are you suggesting she shouldn't be allowed to care for her own child? OP actually said she wouldn't be bringing child anywhere till this issue was resolved.

Definitely needs an escape proof car seat. You can't rely on a 2 year old obedience. It's not a question of discipline.
Anything that distracts the driver could be fatal.

ComeOnGran

He hasn’t managed to escape from the playpen yet……

He's probably too old for a playpen now anyway.

Is he in a bed now?
Or climbing out of the cot?

DGS took after his mother, Houdini.

I think the OP is trying to help the mum in this case, Hithere

He hasn’t managed to escape from the playpen yet……

Patronizing? Oh please!

It is very common sense that if an adult cannot keep my child safe, that person will not be childcare

A grandma that lets a 2 year old do in a car and has no idea an adult is in charge, not the child, has no business taking the child anywhere

If there is a car accident and the child is harmed due to not being in the car seat, the adult is liable

Older is not always wiser

Hithere

General warning for posters: safety is a huge issue for parents

A caregiver who puts their child in danger (nevermind how much how much this person claims not to do anything to hurt the child and to want the best for the child) - may see the access restricted

I assume you did not intend to be di patronising!

What on earth has this got to do with the OPs request for any advice. Neither she nor anyone else has suggested they are caregivers putting a child in danger!! In fact one comment the OP makes suggests she is asking because the child Mum is finding it difficult, particularly the school run! 🙄

Escape proof seatbelts are definitely available, many special schools have to use them for their escapologists!
www.onbuy.com/gb/p/qopahi-anti-escape-car-seat-strap-baby-harness-chest-clip-baby-safety-strap-prevent-childrenkids-taking-their-arms-out-of-child-car-seathigh~p68224224/
I wonder if this might help?

I used to work as a pupil guide, for special needs children. There is a special sort of harness you can obtain, where it is buckled behind the seat, so the child cannot access the mechanisms at all. It used to be named after a famous escapoligist that ended in "dini", but then realised it was a bit incorrect, so it became just referred to as the extra harness as needed. Not sure how you would go about obtaining one, sorry.

Have star charts gone out of style ? a star for every good performance and a small gift at the end of the week if it’s filled with stars

I m with the ‘stop the car and refuse to move until he’s back in his seat’ I remember my daughter doing that a few times when the kids were quarrelling in the back

I do remember DD finding DGS had escaped from his playpen at about 14 months old; it was one of those modern ones that slotted together and he'd just taken it to pieces.

The old-fashioned wooden ones with a floor were much better.

Thank you - will pass it on.

Halfords

CoolCoco

usually a game on a tablet keeps them occupied in the car.

Screens at TWO???

Yes, as suggested, I'd go to Halfrds and ask for advice.

One of my DC used to be able to tak her arms out and lean forward in her car seat ("Look at me!!") but I'm sure they've improved a lot since those days.

usually a game on a tablet keeps them occupied in the car.

Either the child stays in the car seat and does not undo the buckle or the car does not move. It doesn't matter whether it is the school run or going anywhere else.

I once stopped my car made my children get out and affected to drive away (Idrove about 1 metre) when they started to do something dangerous and would not stop. They were, of course, a lot older than 2, but when they got back into the car, the dangerous behaviour stopped and they learnt and remembered the lesson.

ixion

Put him in thick fleece mittens without thumbs.
Compromise his dexterity.

Ah yes, one of the other challenges they have is to get him to wear a coat - they don’t even try mittens…..

Oh yes, he definitely thinks he’s in charge. I’m afraid his parents definitely underestimated what hard work having a second child would be…..

Thank you Lyndylou. His parents are looking in to what is available that might help - there are various options but as you say it’s finding something that still offers safe quick release.