Louis Theroux - The Settlers

I watched it a few nights ago and found it very eye-opening in the worst possible way. The footage of the Palestinian shot in cold blood will stay with me forever- it was horrific to see the conditions these people are living under. And the settlers themselves were horrifyingly unsettling and completely without insight into how they are mirroring the Final Solution.
We should have more of this kind of television.

Found it utterly repugnant that the 'settlers', even one of their Rabbi, had the language and attitude of the Nazis.
I've been to the West Bank and saw enough to disturb me and know The Settlers programme was a true reflection of what is going on.

The programme should be on peak time BBC

I know I need to watch it but a) I don’t think it will tell me anything I don’t already know and b) it will make me very very angry and I’m sadly ( for my own sanity) tending to avoid political stuff for a while…

I understand totally MayBee. It left me feeling so sad and helpless. Daniella Weiss is 79 and my only hope is that she won’t be around for much longer.

What’s the point of international laws Stone if they can’t be enforced? The only glimmer of hope was seeing the Israeli activists who abhor the situation and put themselves at risk.
The soldiers wouldn’t have been out of place in the SS - despicable thugs.

Strange, we read often no aid, no reporters allowed yet Theroux walks in with a camera crew
Recently BBC broadcast a documentary on the brutality taking place in West Bank then quickly withdraw it with an apology,
the docu makers had recorded members of Hamas families as witnesses

Anniebach

Strange, we read often no aid, no reporters allowed yet Theroux walks in with a camera crew
Recently BBC broadcast a documentary on the brutality taking place in West Bank then quickly withdraw it with an apology,
the docu makers had recorded members of Hamas families as witnesses

You're confusing Gaza with the West Bank.

So West Bank and Gaza both Palestinian Territories but one is
free for reporters and documentary makers but one isn’t

Anniebach

So West Bank and Gaza both Palestinian Territories but one is
free for reporters and documentary makers but one isn’t

That's right. Do you not realise they're different?

Both are Palestinian territories, do tell the difference

The hostages were taken by Hammas based in Gaza, but the measures against Palestinians in the West Bank have been going on since 1967.

Nothing in Gaza before 7 October 2023 ? all threads have spoken of Hamas revenge , they had no reason to be vengeful,!

Anniebach

Nothing in Gaza before 7 October 2023 ? all threads have spoken of Hamas revenge , they had no reason to be vengeful,!

What are you trying to say?

I really think you should look up the difference between Gaza and the West Bank. They have had very different leaders since 2005 and Israel has treated them differently.

One of the difficulties in finding a permanent solution has been that Hamas won't accept Fatah rule.

The documentary is about settlers in the West Bank. Up to now, there has been no Israeli settlement in Gaza, which is why it was significant seeing the plans which have been drawn up.

Opinions are going to differ according to whether one agrees its OK for some Israeli citizens to be occupying land on the West Bank at all never mind the ways they are enforcing it.

If only when the State of Israel was established, Palestine was also given status of Statehood.

If it’s who lived there first the answer is Jews

Oh there was me thinking it was the Canaanite’s.

Wondered how long before Canaan would be brought up,

Thats given me some interesting historical wanderings.

"Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites"

www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-near-eastern-world/jews-and-arabs-descended-from-canaanites/#:~:text=The%20ethnic%20groups%20either%20still,largely%20descended%20from%20the%20Canaanites.&text=Canaanite%20culture%20was%20dominant%20in,History%20Daily%20in%20June%2C%202020.

But it's not really helpful in terms of - does what happened 13th century BC give some current day Israelis the "right" to occupy the West Bank?

If it’s who lived there first the answer is Jews

Oh please ........let's undo the world. Let's make way for believers in Manifest Destiny. Gut wrenching to listen to yet another gun toting American whose ancestors took land from Native Americans as "god intended" and called it their land and now claim the homeland they are entitled to is Israel. Seriously. No different from the Nazis claiming more living space for their superior race.

Prepare to pack up and leave Britain while those here first stake a claim as god intended maybe.......

According to my DNA I am a Celt - so I reckon my claim is pretty much up there😊

Quote Wyllow3 Wed 30-Apr-25 14:24:08
Thats given me some interesting historical wanderings.

"Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites"

www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-near-eastern-world/jews-and-arabs-descended-from-canaanites/#:~:text=The%20ethnic%20groups%20either%20still,largely%20descended%20from%20the%20Canaanites.&text=Canaanite%20culture%20was%20dominant%20in,History%20Daily%20in%20June%2C%202020.

But it's not really helpful in terms of - does what happened 13th century BC give some current day Israelis the "right" to occupy the West Bank?

Theroux is on TikTok saying Palestinians been in West Bank
for centuries, he thinks important

Anniebach

If it’s who lived there first the answer is Jews

No, it's not - if you really want to delve back into ancient history.

Abraham is the original patriarch of Judaism and he came from Chaldea.

It is nonsense to say, 'We were here first...', like kids would do in a playground.

The present situation is almost wholly due to the British promising the Palestinians their own land in the Balfour declaration and then leaving the state of Israel to renege on that agreement.

We walked away with disastrous consequences for the Palestinian people to our shame.