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in process of losing my sis

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Charly Mon 01-Oct-18 16:45:06

I haven't seen my older sister for a few years but I still have close and regular contact with her via online Scrabble and in particular, the Scrabble messaging system. We are neither of us particularly bothered to see each other in person as we have plenty to share about in writing and neither of us is very face-to-face oriented.

My current concern relates to the distinct likelihood that her breast cancer (triple negative, stage 3, treated up to about March last year) has come back in her bones. Her Scrabble moves have become much less frequent in the last ten days or so. I know she said she was due to see her cancer specialist last week some time, about a bone scan she'd had many weeks earlier. She sounded rather resigned to the long wait, as if there was little point hurrying treatment for secondaries if her pain did indeed emanate from them. Her arm pain started goodness knows how many months ago now, and she ignored it in the hope that it was something to do with her mastectomy (from the original tumour, in '16) and the stress it might have put on that side. She said she'd thought about having a second mastectomy anyway because she really didn't find it too pleasant having only the one breast.

We have had several exchanges on Twitter about politics, not in agreement at all, but we both knew we had differing views. However lately her tweets have also become less frequent.

I may be making the wrong assumptions but I wouldn't be at all surprised if any time I heard that she'd died. Having been in nursing, she might well have gained access to some powerful painkillers, and I wouldn't be surprised if she had used a big lot to get over the increasing pain, maybe with half an intention of ending it all. We had 'talked' quite a bit about our own deaths over the years, as well as our parents' and sister's and some others.

You may ask why I haven't asked her point blank where she is with all this. I just know her well enough, and know her general approach of late. Getting bossy and interventionist isn't the way to go now, I'm sure of it. I've told her I love her in spite of our considerable diffs and I've changed my tone on Twitter to one of finding common ground and RTing stuff she's tweeted which I can go along with. FB also.

She turned back to Buddhism (as well as her continued communism, although she naturally considers herself sort of 'centre left'!) since recovering from her first nine months of treatment, and I got sense she was really appreciating her new lease of life. She'd moved to another part of the country and was enjoying living by the sea.

It is still very hard to get my head around her likely very limited life now. She's 63. She might be in denial and just keep going on for as long as she can without any more treatment and maybe without any more acknowledgement of her illness. I wouldn't blame her either, I might be similar in that way.

She is married with a daughter in her thirties, and step-children and a number of grandchildren/stepgrabdchildren. Sadly her daughter distanced herself considerably from her about twenty months ago, and I still find that very hard to understand. But she did lose her mother-in-law to cancer just after my sister started her treatment, in summer '16, and she her partner had two small children, so everything might just felt like too much. Understandable, but painful for my poor sis. However, I think they have sort of partially made up since last summer.

Anyway, sorry to go on. I'm just very sad at the prospect of losing my sis, a lifelong, very dear friend.

Bennan Tue 02-Oct-18 15:58:44

Please try to see her. I lost my sister, also my best friend, to cancer some years ago. She and my brother had fallen out and I arranged for him to come to see her without telling her. I am so glad that I did it because they were able to reconcile their differences and when she died he was so glad they had had that time together. I spent the day before she died with her. I wanted to stay but the doctor said to go home and get some sleep. She died the following morning before I reached the hospice and it still haunts me, I did not want her to be alone even if she did not recognise me. You will not regret being there for a while with her. I still miss my sister so much!

kazziecookie Tue 02-Oct-18 18:22:52

I lost my sister to cancer last year. She already knew before then that the cancer had spread to her bones and it was terminal. The Doctors has originally said she could live for quite a few more years but she then took a turn for the worse and that looked unlikely.
My niece decided to arrange a 67th birthday party for her as a celebration of her life whilst she was still well enough to enjoy it. My family are spread around the country but we all made the journey to Wales to attend and it was an amazing day. She died suddenly a few weeks later, but we were all so glad we had seen her happy on her birthday and that is the memory that will stay with me.
I hope you get the chance to see your sister too.

4allweknow Tue 02-Oct-18 18:35:47

I would go and see your sister. When my BiL died of cancer I had known him since I was 7 ( sister was 15 years older than me). He had cancer and did not want a "fuss" or visitors. I did with reluctance observe his wishes and didnt see him for nearly 4 months when I died. This was over 20 years ago and I still regret not seeing him. Go see your sister.

justwokeup Tue 02-Oct-18 19:07:46

You really don't need to feel that your sister will find you 'bossy and interventionist'. Couldn't you invent something you need to be in her area for and say you'll call in for a cuppa if she's around? You might have to be a bit flexible on the timings but then you should be able to assess the situation for yourself, instead of just worrying. Like others, I think you might regret it if you don't go.

GabriellaG Tue 02-Oct-18 20:10:29

It's a forum where we can be critical (but not verbally aggressive or rude -I was neither)
What did letting other GNers (and the world at large) know about your sister's preferences when it comes to partners, add to the initial query. I personally think it was bad taste and I bet there are others who think so too but they wouldn't say so. I think it was wholly unnecessary but you obviously thought we needed to know. Did it colour my view of your sister? No, but it sure said a lot about the writer.

GabriellaG Tue 02-Oct-18 20:15:19

4allweknow
'^didn't see him for nearly four nonths when I DIED^'?
hmmconfused have you come here to haunt us? sadgrin

GabriellaG Tue 02-Oct-18 20:15:51

*months blush

GabriellaG Tue 02-Oct-18 20:22:43

mumofmadboys
Shall I pm you my comments for your approvsl before posting on the forum?
I thought we could (and many do) make comments in general. I think the OP has enough batting for her for my criticism not to make a difference. Everyone is singing from the same sheet. I chose not to.

Scribbles Tue 02-Oct-18 21:13:57

Gabriella, you may not have been aggressive or rude but your tone here has been hectoring and unpleasant. If you feel your criticism will make no difference, then why make it? Perhaps your comments would be appropriate in a thread on the Chat or Politics sections but not here under the Bereavement heading.

It is apparent that the OP is both anxious and distressed and it might, therefore, be reasonable to assume that she may not have polished and edited her post with quite the same care she might give to, for example, a doctoral thesis.

Your response to the OP is not constructive criticism but mere carping.

GabriellaG Tue 02-Oct-18 23:16:30

Scribbles
...and you are ? Judge and jury? Moderator? It wasn't even written to or about you. I have as much right to critique a post in which a persons sexuality is mentioned when it has nothing to do with the subject matter initially discussed. One does not 'accidentally' mention it.
I respect everyone else's views regardless of whether or not I agree and I expect mine to be respected, likewise.
I don't know why you even bothered to object to my comment as whatever you say makes no difference whatsoever to me.
You have your views and I have mine and ne'er the twain shall meet. grin

Janga Wed 03-Oct-18 08:20:15

My friends and I lost an old work colleague who became part of our friendship group in July. She also battled breast and bone cancer. She suffered and underwent gruelling treatments. We tried to see her and it upset us and her when we did. She became a little old lady in her 60's and it was dreadful to see her. This could be why she has distanced herself as it is sometimes best to remember them how they were . That is her decision now up to you what you wish/can do. You have to live with it if you don't make some sort of attempt to have a last hug or two ?

Granny23 Wed 03-Oct-18 08:46:18

I did think it was relevant to mention that the DD's partner was female because this might make it easier for the OP to approach the partner as a fellow woman than to be speaking to a man she scarcely knows about breast cancer.

Now I will be accused of being sexist in assuming that a women might be more empathic in the circumstances than a man.

Scribbles Wed 03-Oct-18 18:29:45

Oh. I get it now. Gabriella is allowed to say whatever she likes but I am being judge and jury if I dare to criticise. Sorry, Milady, I'll stay in my place henceforth.

Bellanonna Wed 03-Oct-18 18:55:08

Best not to “feed” her Scribbles.

Charly Wed 03-Oct-18 18:56:51

Thank you so much, most lovely Gansnetters responding to my original post, for being so supportive and defending me also against what felt like unnecessary and hurtful criticism. No doubt I shouldn't have made it so plain my niece was in a same sex relationship, I did so for clarity reasons in case of need for future reference. Anyway, I know what I intended, and most of you seemed to understand me and recognise what was most important in my post: I love my dear sister very much indeed and I will miss her painfully.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Oct-18 19:04:48

Perhaps you should go and see her?
Things can (and do) change so quickly, and I'm speaking from experience.
Please don't assume there is still time, as there may not be as much as you think. flowers