The ghoulishness of Hallowe’en?

Depending on shape and size .....I’d rather not say

GabriellaG, much as I thought then!

GabriellaG, and no obvious reason to claim to be more intelligent than the rest of the Gransnetters.

And a further unpleasant post, particularly with reference to ‘brown nose’, in poor taste and rather vulgar.

Oh, GrannyQ, how could I forget toffee apples? No wonder I have a history of dodgy teeth!

every halloween ,we get it shoved in the face.yes i can see that kids want to dress up and get frighten away evil spirits with pumpkins etc...that bit is fun. what i dont like is that the kids in the uk treat halloween as a time they can run wild, throw eggs etc and fireworks on buses into people homes. and generally cause mayhem. they dress up with the most scariest masks that is not fun its down right evil.if halloween was like the do it in the usa yes it would be fun.. i been to usa and allowed my d to take part in a halloween walk about the neighbourhood,and get sweets/candy. people over their put pumkins etc on their porches and gardens and yes it looks nice and its a bit of fun.yes i am a christian lady and i work voluntary for salvation army. but put aside that/ .i dont think halloween should be celebrated...........in a way its inviting evil in not out......and going begging around peoples doors is asking for trouble.. yes i know an adult usually accompanies them...but why celebrate evil spirits anyway.......

Better to be a bit dim
Jalima; You're not dim; you're a livewire!

I am afraid to comment on this subject with this superior intelligence policing the thread ??

Do you live in Liverpool GabriellaG ?

And the abundance of modesty and self depreciation too, harrigran!

Abundance of modesty and self deprecation, I like that Cheebacca , the oposite of blowing one’s own trumpet ?

Some people don't need to wear masks, it's inbuilt ! You've only to look at the news/newspapers to see mugshots of criminals and the like. Enough to give you nightmares for a week. Who needs Halloween ? It's an everyday occurrence.

.*but why celebrate evil spirits anyway.......*

It is celebrating the thinning of the veil. That covers ALL spirits and many christian denominations celebrate it as a month where the deceased can hear your prayers more clearly.

thats all saints day.where you remember people who have died .all souls day ,not halloween

I’ve read much of this thread with a degree of surprise, because it has never occurred to me to equate skeletons etc wit the real people I know who have died. To me a person is not the body and bones, but the spirit, character and personality.

Moggie is is the same thing. Just different interpretations of it. The common theme is that the veil is thin, your loved ones can give you direction through prayer is one of them.

It is not about "evil" it is about the WHOLE spectrum

Jalima; You're not dim; you're a livewire!
I wish Rufus
(shattered after just half a day's shopping )

I haven't had the time to read anything but the first page of this thread so please excuse me if I am repeating what others have said.

I am not a fan of Halloween. However, if it consisted of cobwebs, pumpkins, witches with broomsticks and pointy hats, apple bobbing, ghost stories - that type of thing - I would not find it offensive.

In its current form, I think it is absolutely vile. Over recent years I have seen an escalation in the sheer brutality of the occasion - a window with the silhouette of a man brandishing a long knife and a women cowering in front of him. I have seen lifelike looking dismembered, bloodied hands, terribly disfigured faces, etc. etc. etc.

In my opinion, this is a celebration of the very depths of human behaviour and personal tragedy and I think it is despicable to use this as entertainment for children.

But really it's all about money - the ghastly tat in the supermarkets, the selling of party food, costumes and the like. Any opportunity to big up the event and make more money.

Eloethan, I wholeheartedly agree with everything in your post ??

I wasn’t keen on Halloween when my children were young as I didn’t like them knocking on people’s doirs asking for sweets as to me it’s essentially begging. Also there were several incidents that occurred in our village involving eggs being thrown and general bad behaviour by teenagers whereby the police would end up being called. I’ve mellowed a bit, I don’t mind a Halloween party but I still don’t like the trick or treat element. Also why is all the Halloween stuff in supermarkets so incredibly tacky? I think I’d rather we celebrated the Mexican Day of The Dead Festival at least it doesn’t involve blood and gore and throwing eggs

I also wholeheartedly agree with you Eloethan.

Me too, but unfortunately the genie can’t be put back into the bottle. We are stuck with the awfulness and the tat.

All Saints Day, 1st November when all Saints and Martyrs , known and unknown throughout hidtory remembered

All Souls Day 2nd November when the faithful departed are remembered

Our local Christian church fellowship has an event on Halloween called Lights, to help counter this which is about light and love in the world. Alot of children attend this (no Halloween masks allowed) from within and out of the church (secular) and then many of them go on to do Halloween after. Sighs! We just try to offer an alternative