The ghoulishness of Hallowe’en?

Exactly Anniebach thank you.

I came across this today and thought I would just leave it here, for all the lesser mortals like myself on Gransnet ?
the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people of low ability have illusory superiority and mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority comes from the inability of low-ability people to recognize their lack of ability.

Halloween realy is Hallow Eve.

Hallow as in the Lord’s Prayer, hallowed be thy name.

It means the eve of All Saints Day when Saints and Martyrs are remembered = hallowed .

In other words,Janeainsworth, it's a " social problem ?" I have heard of this " affliction " and along with all others is a quirk of a person's personality---------but nothing that would unduly bother me as I'm thick-skinned

That’s interesting Jane, think I’ll have to join you as one of the lesser mortals.

Actually the origins of All Hallows is widely debated. Some link it to the Celtic ceremony of Samrhain some don't. In some religions it is celebrated earlier in the year. www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/holydays/halloween_1.shtml

How interesting Jane. Don’t think I’ve got Dunning-Kruger cognition bias, but interesting to read about it. There was a girl at school, come to think about it, who bigged herself up no end about highly unlikely scenarios. Quite sad in a way.

As Annie said, All Saints’ Day is 1st and All Souls’ Day is 2nd.
Possibly Halloween has nothing to do with All Saints.

Me too, but unfortunately the genie can’t be put back into the bottle. We are stuck with the awfulness and the tat.
I keep hoping that there will be a backlash by consumers against plastic tat at least.

Halloween means the eve of All Saints Day which was also called All Hallows’ Day so - eve of All Hallows Day

I agree about all the plastic tat that is now on sale targetted at young children*Jalima1108*. It sometimes horrifies me how much stuff my DGCs have. (And some of it is second hand but still too much)

Mine have a lot of wooden tat. At least it will biodegrade!!

Oh we have the wooden stuff as well muffin. It bothers me slightly less (I just try not to think of it as trees!)

Mine will have a real pumkin

And a bat or two.
The cats are already in situ (and real).

pumkin?
pumpkin.

I did grow some one year, but they weren't very large.

As Annie said, All Saints’ Day is 1st and All Souls’ Day is 2nd.
Possibly Halloween has nothing to do with All Saints.

They are all variations of the same celebration where the distance between the spirit world and the "real" world is lessened.

They are not connected and not the same celebration

All Saints Day and All Souls Day are part of the Christian Calendar, no connect with spirits .

Right.

Because the christian callender isn't at all superimposed onto older celebrations/traditions...

"Halloween or Hallowe'en (a contraction of Hallows' Evening),[5] also known as Allhalloween,[6] All Hallows' Eve,[7] or All Saints' Eve,[8] is a celebration observed in a number of countries on 31 October, the eve of the Western Christian feast of All Hallows' Day. It begins the three-day observance of Allhallowtide,[9] the time in the liturgical year dedicated to remembering the dead, including saints (hallows), martyrs, and all the faithful departed.[10][11]"

Halloween, all saints and all souls are all part of the same thing. And are modified from older celebrations such as Samhain.

I am not speaking of older traditions, I am speaking of Christian Services and contacting the so called ‘living dead’ has nothing to do with prayers for the departed

It was a custom to enter graveyards on Holloween looking for the living dead .

No part of the services on All Saints Day or All Soul Day speak on the living dead

I am speaking of services in the Anglican Church

Living dead? What you mean zombies?

Thats not whay the thinning of the veil means lol

No I am not speaking of zombies or thinning of the veil, the latter is not part of the Christian faith.

But you actually are Annie. The reason why extra prayers to the departed were added to the Christian calender at this time is because people believed that messages could more easily be sent and received between our world and the spirit world at this time of year.

The church added its own variation of that to the church's calender because it is easier (when conquering/converting natives) to adapt and adopt their traditions than to eradicate them.

I can only speak for the Anglican Churches I have and do worship in, Churches have a book for All Souls Day where one can write the name of a loved one who has died . Anyone wishing to do this if your local church is open in the day they may have a book for names to be written in