Finally read ‘Spare’

And actually after the first burst of publicity they have both been quite quiet. They have certainly protected their children.

I suspect the reason we haven’t heard from them lately is the fact that having shot themselves in the foot with their constant whingefest and losing a lot of support, they have been advised to keep their heads down for a while.

I wouldn’t read it - too many books too little time. As for the RF being able to reply as Charles and Diana did - didn’t that go well?! I should thing the Prince and Princess of Wales have learnt that lesson.

MRGUDER

The problem I see is where do Librarians shelve the book? Under Fact or Fiction?

As an ex-librarian I agree! 🤣🤣

And actually after the first burst of publicity they have both been quite quiet
Probably it didn't go down quite as well as they'd hoped.

Much has been covered up for all of them
Glorianny I don't really care whether or not any of them have private marital problems, that is not our business.
I'm talking about bullying of staff.

I was given a copy by a family member. They found it unreadable and as I’m an avid reader, passed it on to me to see if I fared any better. Sadly not, as I only managed to get part way through it before giving up. It’s a self pity fest. South Park got it right. Waaaah would have been a more accurate title !!

Yes,Harry used to be popular and a bit of a larrikin as they would say here. What a shame he has changed so much. I don’t know whether or not it is because of Meghan’s influence but I tend to think if he had married Chelsy he would be a lot better off ( and nicer to know) .

It is in the same category as Fifty Shades of Grey as far as I am concerned in that there was a lot of hype about it, it was dreadfully written sensationalism and I have no intention of ever reading it..

Callistemon21

merlotgran

unlike William and Charles, you are not going to get any top job as a reward for putting up with it.

Harry didn’t need to inherit a top job, he was already well on the way to creating one of his own.

He was popular, he had more freedom than William and he married a woman who ticked so many boxes that all they had to do was take a little time to establish their value to the RF.

Now we know a lot more about his personality we realise that nothing would have been good enough to wipe the scowl from his face.

We’ve been Spared!

Well said, merlotgran

Far better not to have the 'top job' with all its protocols and restrictions.

Yes, they both had so much to offer if they'd chosen to stay and, if they had decided that life in the glare of publicity was not for them, then who could blame them.

But that is not what they chose. They didn't want to share the limelight, they wanted their own so they have not shunned publicity and now it seems to be backfiring on them.

There is also much that has been kept from the public about their behaviour when they were here too as the Royal Family has in fact shielded them from more adverse media reports.

Well nothing new there.
Much has been covered up for all of them. William certainly isn't the angel he is painted as.

And actually after the first burst of publicity they have both been quite quiet. They have certainly protected their children.

Harry really did have the best of both worlds

Indeed he did. Just a pity he didn’t realise that himself.

merlotgran

^unlike William and Charles, you are not going to get any top job as a reward for putting up with it.^

Harry didn’t need to inherit a top job, he was already well on the way to creating one of his own.

He was popular, he had more freedom than William and he married a woman who ticked so many boxes that all they had to do was take a little time to establish their value to the RF.

Now we know a lot more about his personality we realise that nothing would have been good enough to wipe the scowl from his face.

We’ve been Spared!

Well said, merlotgran

Far better not to have the 'top job' with all its protocols and restrictions.

Yes, they both had so much to offer if they'd chosen to stay and, if they had decided that life in the glare of publicity was not for them, then who could blame them.

But that is not what they chose. They didn't want to share the limelight, they wanted their own so they have not shunned publicity and now it seems to be backfiring on them.

There is also much that has been kept from the public about their behaviour when they were here too as the Royal Family has in fact shielded them from more adverse media reports.

merlotgran I agree with you. It seemed to me that Harry really did have the best of both worlds.
I’m sure that he’ll be back at some point

Yes Joseann you’re right, a line does sometimes need to be drawn, otherwise people can become stuck in a circle of resentment and consequently are never able to move on. My own sister fits this pattern and to be honest I think it has ruined her life and destroyed many of her relationships, including mine with her. Harry is following the same pattern.

I can't remember where in the book, but Harry does state that from the beginning he was the more difficult, rebellious child. His mother recognised that, but in some ways her own behaviour just compounded Harry's grumpy outlook on his own position. I don't know how he should have been handled to make him feel happier in his own skin, but I hope he doesn't carry his resentment forward into his own children's upbringing.
A line sometimes needs to be drawn, or life is full of resentment and recriminations.

unlike William and Charles, you are not going to get any top job as a reward for putting up with it.

Harry didn’t need to inherit a top job, he was already well on the way to creating one of his own.

He was popular, he had more freedom than William and he married a woman who ticked so many boxes that all they had to do was take a little time to establish their value to the RF.

Now we know a lot more about his personality we realise that nothing would have been good enough to wipe the scowl from his face.

We’ve been Spared!

I feel sorry for Harry, I am sure he has had much counselling but cannot accept the fact his mother brought about much tragedy herself, to do so would mean admitting she was not a saint.

nanna8

Well I was hoping to feel some sympathy for him as I read it because I was thinking maybe he is just a victim of the press. My sympathy ebbed away, though,as it became clear he was so biased and out of touch with reality. The press where I live don’t particularly ‘hate’ him, they are fairly neutral and they don’t actually mention the couple very often.

But perhaps it is accumulative and when you have seen your mother hounded and upset, had your whole life documented and displayed, and then suddenly realise exactly the same thing is going to happen to your wife and any children you have, it becomes too much to bear. Especially when you know that, unlike William and Charles, you are not going to get any top job as a reward for putting up with it.

Well I was hoping to feel some sympathy for him as I read it because I was thinking maybe he is just a victim of the press. My sympathy ebbed away, though,as it became clear he was so biased and out of touch with reality. The press where I live don’t particularly ‘hate’ him, they are fairly neutral and they don’t actually mention the couple very often.

Serendipity22

I bought it, read it and have nothing but sympathy for Harry.

You always see the best in everyone and everything Serendipity
(Unlike bitter old cynical me!)

I bought it, read it and have nothing but sympathy for Harry.

I made up my mind and I didn’t read the book.
His behaviour was enough for me.
I’m not even a royalist, but the behaviour when his granny was in her final months was appalling.

Witzend

Syracute

nanna8

I wasn’t going to pay for it so I waited until the library had it. Glad I didn’t pay for it, having read it. Not a good book and quite delusional ,unfortunately. I was hoping to feel some sympathy for the ‘author’ ( if he actually managed to write it himself ) but no, nada. Self indulgence par excellence. Ah well, sometimes the press are right …

Delusional ? Honestly, he was baring his soul . Daily Mail and The Sun do a good job of promoting lies and hate . You just jumped on that wagon and read through those ugly spectacles . It was worth reading . People here just live for reasons to hate Harry and Meghan. These tabloids made a fortune on that !

If by ‘people here’ you mean us Brits in the U.K., Syracute, I do assure you that far from ‘hating’, many of us are simply bored - we have no desire to hear another word about the tedious pair ever again. We wish they’d just go and enjoy the quiet, private life they were supposed to have been longing for.

I think that, as nanna8 has told us she does not live in the UK, she has probably not been influenced by anything in the UK papers you mention, Syracuse, therefore her judgement and views are her own.

As for those of us who do live in the UK, we don't necessarily read the newspapers and can make up our own minds if we do read the book.

Syracute

nanna8

I wasn’t going to pay for it so I waited until the library had it. Glad I didn’t pay for it, having read it. Not a good book and quite delusional ,unfortunately. I was hoping to feel some sympathy for the ‘author’ ( if he actually managed to write it himself ) but no, nada. Self indulgence par excellence. Ah well, sometimes the press are right …

Delusional ? Honestly, he was baring his soul . Daily Mail and The Sun do a good job of promoting lies and hate . You just jumped on that wagon and read through those ugly spectacles . It was worth reading . People here just live for reasons to hate Harry and Meghan. These tabloids made a fortune on that !

If by ‘people here’ you mean us Brits in the U.K., Syracute, I do assure you that far from ‘hating’, many of us are simply bored - we have no desire to hear another word about the tedious pair ever again. We wish they’d just go and enjoy the quiet, private life they were supposed to have been longing for.

My friend bought it to see what all the fuss was about. She said once she got past the few juicy bits it was just so boring.

The couple of extracts I read in the papers seemed to me as if the ghost writer was continually egging him on. "What happened next Harry?" "What really nasty things did William say? Didn't he say anything nastier than that" It all seemed a bit like his claim about the newspaper reports that upset him, when he couldn't remember what he'd read when he was questioned in court.

Aw, shucks, Callisetemon!

And the author