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Mums lonely

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Katyj Thu 07-Oct-21 17:19:19

Hi. I’m here again wondering what to do again if anything. My mum is lonely she lives alone in a flat, she’s 90 with poor mobility and doesn’t feel well quite a lot of the time, has what she calls her funny heads.
For quite a while now, every time I visit, usually twice a week, she complains bitterly that no one has been to see her, by this she means her gc and ggc , now, as you can imagine like most young people they have little time, have responsible jobs and young families. I’m an only one too which doesn’t help.
I’m wholeheartedly fed up ! Ive suggested joining a group, but no she
doesn’t want to be with the old folk.
She’s also being a nuisance now phoning her grandchildren at least twice a week wanting to know what their up to. I phone everyday, but it’s not enough she phones me back most days. I’ve been told off today because I didn’t answer her call, I was in the garden ! It’s really getting on top of me and I feel like running away. Anybody got any ideas ?

Katyj Thu 07-Oct-21 19:14:33

We’ve been away twice this year, and both times she wasn’t very well, of course there was nothing I could do about it, but she insisted I talk to the carers. After that I couldn’t relax at all.
I wish she’d at least move into sheltered housing, but she won’t hear of it. Her closest friends seem to be keeping their distance lately which is a real shame, she can be very judgmental though ,so has probably said something to upset them ,although she has a heart of gold ,she has very strong views and is very Stubborn.
I’m going to have a look around see if I can find anything that might interest her. Although I know it’s really only family she wants.

MissAdventure Thu 07-Oct-21 19:47:52

My mum was exactly the same, and I was run ragged trying to do my best.
It just wasn't like her at all, as she was such a kind and caring person, but she made the last part of her and my daughter's lives so much more difficult than they already were.
Perhaps try and organise an afternoon a week where she has another option, and stick to it. flowers

trisher Thu 07-Oct-21 19:53:39

Katyj I wonder if there is a carer's group in your area who might give you some support. I found out about one after my mum died I wish I had known before that. They seemed to offer coffee mornings, a chance to chat, exercise and even massages. It might help you to have regular support.

Judy54 Fri 08-Oct-21 14:34:17

Hello KatyJ another good place to try may be your local Church. Ours is very helpful to all in the community whether they attend services or not. They have weekly coffee mornings and a lunch club where volunteer will pick people up and take them back home. They can also give advice about local support systems which may be of help to both you and your Mum.

BlueBelle Fri 08-Oct-21 14:51:34

There are a number of charities who will help sometimes they will go round and sit and have a cup of tea o lace a week some will have a game of cards or similar some would even take them out for a walk in a wheelchair on a nice day
You need to engage with some voluntary organisations katy
Start with Age concern
Good luck it’s a big problem fir you but not really her fault either

Katyj Fri 08-Oct-21 14:55:24

Thank you again everyone.I’ll try Age concern first, see what they say. It’s very difficult trying to source the information, let alone trying then to convince mum it would be a good idea.

PippaZ Fri 08-Oct-21 15:01:17

Hithere

There is only so much you can do, your mother cannot rely on others for her happiness

In fact, being needy will push people further

She is old. All that her life rested on has disappeared. She is lonely in a way now one can make better. I don't think it's a stage of life when you can use cod psychology.

My mother was the same. In her 90s, until the last couple of years, she knew she couldn't change things but she did love the company of those she had known and who knew her. She was never a joiner so that wasn't going to change. She never had a lot of "aquaintances". She had had my dad and the family - by then two-thirds of them in other countries, good friends - by then all dead, and lovely neighbours who spent time with her as my family and I did but none of that could ever make up for what she had lost.

I think the idea of a cleaner is a great one. Some people volunteer as visitors too which may help. However, with mum it was because she wanted the last bit of the familiar that she hankered for the family.

Hithere Fri 08-Oct-21 15:30:54

I know plenty will disagree with me

Being old and sick does not override the needs of others - it is a compromise between all parties.

trisher Fri 08-Oct-21 15:59:53

Hithere

I know plenty will disagree with me

Being old and sick does not override the needs of others - it is a compromise between all parties.

That may be true in theory Hithere but when you know someone probably only has a few years left and you love them you want to make those years as happy and comfortable as you can so you do your best to meet their needs. What's the alternative? Argue and upset them?

BlueBelle Fri 08-Oct-21 16:03:52

KatJ my mum had poor hearing after catching measles from me when she was a young woman over the years it got worse and through social services she was allocated a phone with a screen so she was able to see what people were saying to her this was about twelve years ago so not sure if it’s still available but would it be worth checking this out too it may make your mum feel more involved if she finds it hard

Allsorts Fri 08-Oct-21 16:15:19

It awful to hear of people living to be 90 and so lonely. You’re just a burden and no one has time for you. Talking today to a neighbour in her late eighties, who has had a very busy life and can’t keep on top of things, she still has her husband who has dementia, she said she just exists and is so lonely. Would rather die younger than face that.

Hithere Fri 08-Oct-21 16:17:23

Trisher

Depending on the situation, there is no win win at all.

If requests are too unreasonable, both sides are going to get hurt and resentful

maddyone Fri 08-Oct-21 16:50:34

KatyJ I’ve only just found your thread that you mentioned on my thread. I think you’re my sister because we seem to have the same mother! I know how difficult and draining it is to have an elderly parent who sees you as her main lifeline. You feel so responsible but at the same time resentful that so much is expected of you, and in your case, you’re still working as well. Guilt is the feeling that drives us, we feel guilty that we don’t do enough, and yet we are doing as much as we can. I know exactly what you mean about being a carer. I wonder if your mother was ever a carer? Chances are that she wasn’t. My mother’s own mother died when my mother was 56 and she had spent the last six years either in hospital or in a care home, so my mother never had these kind of responsibilities. Mum also had two siblings to help with everything, visiting and anything that had to be done. I’m like you, I might as well be an only child because my only sister lives 250 miles away and suffers from mental health difficulties. Anyway she has no more intention of helping with anything to do with Mum than a banana has. It’s down to me, just like you Katy, but my husband is incredibly helpful and supportive. You don’t mention a partner so maybe you are dealing with all this alone, which would make things more difficult for you.

Katy you don’t go on a bit, you need support because you’re dealing with such an incredibly difficult situation, and you need to talk about it. Sometimes just talking about it can help, and as you won’t want to burden your children with this, Gransnet is an ideal forum for getting a little support.

Strangely my mother regularly has a ‘funny head’ and declares that she’s ill. Yesterday she said that very thing and was in bed when I visited her in her nursing home in the afternoon. Whatever you do, don’t stop her carers because they don’t only look after her, they are a bit of company for her too. They will know if she’s really ill and let you know. I was on call 24/7 when my mother lived in her sheltered apartment, and it does cause great stress knowing the call could come at any moment. And did, several times. You have to stop whatever you’re doing and go immediately, and then usually wait for the ambulance to arrive, which can be quite a while. Once the call came when we were looking after our daughter’s three children, but as there were two of us, my husband went, I continued the childcare. If you’re alone, that could be extremely difficult for you.

I’m sorry, I’ve warbled on and the only advice I can give you is that which was given to me by other Gransnetters. That is don’t go every day, try to keep a life of your own. You are not responsible for your mother’s happiness (difficult one) and since she has lived to a great age, she has to accept the loss of many things she enjoyed when she was younger and more able. I know they don’t want to do this, but they must. It’s a fact of life.

Good luck flowers

Katyj Fri 08-Oct-21 17:43:36

Hi. Maddy. What would we do without each other.only people that have been through or going through similar can really understand the mental and physical drain it has on us.
The guilt is terrible, as is listening to the same conversation numerous times a day. It’s not their fault but it’s not ours either, it seems we have to find a way of dealing with it all.
Fortunately I have a lovely DH he has very broad shoulders !, he is a sensitive soul though, so I don’t tell him half of what goes on, that’s part of the trouble I try and protect everyone.
My mum was the Carer in her family too. And there lies the problem, she thinks everyone should do the same . We are very different people, it’s my idea of hell.
Like I said my dad fell ill when I was 26 I’ve seen so much through the years I really can’t take much more, phone calls through the night riding in the back of ambulances, hours waiting in hospitals. ICU, high dependency units, rehab units COVID wards I’ve seen the lot. I’ve actually developed a phobia of a and e now and I shake like mad and feel really ill, but there is no one else.
It seems you have been there too. I’m really keeping my fingers crossed for you now and hope you can battle through once more ,and get your mum settled and well cared for.What I’d give for that.The very best of luck to you. Keep posting.

PippaZ Fri 08-Oct-21 18:44:31

Hithere

I know plenty will disagree with me

Being old and sick does not override the needs of others - it is a compromise between all parties.

You may, one day, need people to make allowances for what you can actually do Hithere.

Hithere Fri 08-Oct-21 18:45:29

Pippa

That is exactly what I said, fully agree

maddyone Fri 08-Oct-21 23:37:08

Katy I’m so pleased that you’ve got a lovely husband to help you. Try to share more with him with regard to your mother, I’m sure it will be fine and he’ll be more than happy to share your burden.

nadateturbe Sat 09-Oct-21 00:21:59

I do feel for you Katyj. I remember my mum saying I hope God forgives you for leaving me alone, as I left one day. Poor mum, I felt sorry for her, but I had to go. It's not easy being old.
I think it's worth exploring to see if you can get any more company for her, just to make you feel better. But I'm not sure it will stop your mum complaining. As someone said it's really family she wants to see.
I think you need to tell yourself you are doing your best and ignore her complaints and don't feel guilty.

Shandy57 Sat 09-Oct-21 00:39:50

Since reading your post Katyj, I've been thinking of my old friend at the BBC who died in 2017, aged 90. She didn't have any kids, but a very remote 'niece' suddenly appeared out of the woodwork just before her death, and couldn't read her address book to let anyone know, apparently. I was very upset to learn of her death through the BBC Ariel website.

I stopped working with her in 1974, but we kept in touch with cards/letters and the odd phone call, although it was difficult for her to hear at the end. She always said 'all my friends are dead' to me in the last year of her life - luckily I'd known them, and could talk about them with her.

Could you contact any of your Mum's friends that are still alive, that could talk about the past?

User7777 Sat 09-Oct-21 01:06:11

She sounds with it, no dementia. Get her an Ipad, show her how to access forums of her interests. Lots of chat on them, if she wants to try. She might impart wisdom to others, that might be lonely or struggling

Katyj Sat 09-Oct-21 05:11:40

Shandy it’s a sorry state of affairs isn’t it. Your friend was lucky she had you. Mum has two friends, they’ve become a little distant lately, they can’t talk on the phone much they are all deaf but do meet up every other Saturday.

She’s not short of visitors to be honest, carers 3 times a day a cleaner once a week, I visit twice a week, her niece pops in now and again and at least three phone calls a day.
It’s family she wants more than anything, and she misses being able to go on holiday, she loved dancing but hasn’t come to terms with her disability’s yet, an iPad wouldn’t be any good, as she has short term memory loss and even forgets how to use the phone sometimes ,plus poor eyesight.
Not to worry, I’ll keep on keeping on, and try and relax on my days off, DH taking me out today, I’ve got a lot to be thankful for xx

Serendipity22 Wed 05-Jan-22 16:09:14

Its heartbreaking for the elderly because some are so lonely and as you say, the GC and GGC have jobs and busy lives.

I was a carer all my working life ( over 30 years ) a job i loved with a passion, then an illness prevented me from continuing so i have been thinking of voluntering with the sitting service, to keep others company, bring a bit of cheer and laughter to their lonely lives so maybe you could get in touch with your local council and enquire about the sitting service. There is an awful lot of help out there. Age UK they are a minefield of information. I have 4 ladies who live local that i visit, we have a cuppa and a laugh its absolutely brilliant.

flowers

Katyj Wed 05-Jan-22 18:05:17

Oh thank goodness for people like you serendipity, it’s lovely that you enjoy it just as much as the people you visit. I’m still battling away with mums loneliness. The trouble is she doesn’t think she’s old, and can’t believe she’s 90, she thinks she’ll be better soon and able to go out and about, she hates that she has carers and complains about them, even sending one home the other day because she mentions that her little one was poorly ?

HowVeryDareYou Wed 05-Jan-22 19:35:31

How about contacting AgeUk and asking for a telephone befriender? Or arranging carers to go in to visit as company for an hour a day? Perhaps even once a week, for a couple of hours to take your mum shopping/to have her hair done/to a cafe?

Katyj Thu 06-Jan-22 06:33:43

Hi. She wouldn’t cope with a phone befriender unfortunately, she can’t hear well enough to have a full conversation. She has carers 3 times a day they stay 30 mins and always have a chat, even though she complains about them she would really miss them.
I can’t take her out at the moment as she’s having frequent dizzy spells, I tried before Christmas but she had to sit down twice in the middle of an isle, it panics me then as I’m not sure if I going to be able to get in back in the car and home again.
I’m trying to persuade her to have a wheelchair then at least, she’d be sat down and not at risk of falling, providing I can manage to lift it into the car in the first place ?