So Just Where Has The Money Set Aside For Social Care Gone?

I don’t know where to start with the OP so I won’t - except to say that you need to read and understand more about LA funding and legal requirements thereof.🙂

What Whitewave said.
Plus have you read or understood anything about austerity over the last 14 years

watch the latest Panorama programme on councils going bankrupt.. it is really eye opening..

The Tories were masters at claiming they had put money into various places and it was their pat answer to everything. They were lying. This is what people chose to ignore. Often it was just money that had been put in years before. What money there was did not make up for the shortfall austerity had removed. It was all a big con.

I didn’t realise that any money was set aside for social care. I’m not surprised it’s been spent if it was set aside.

If they are as good as our council is at wasting millions on vanity projects that die a death because no-one has thought them through properly, then there’s no hope.

Sometime LA money has to be spent in a particular way, by a specific time or it goes back to central government.
For example there may be money to improve open spaces, so new park benches are bought. Meanwhile the school needs to be painted. The first lot of money can’t be spent on the latter.
A simplified example.

Well of course now that we have a La-La-Labour government, "all things shall be well, all things shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well". So no worries.

OP, did your source give clear examples of what it was referring to? It’s the demands and expectations on LAs that are bottomless, and the funds to meet them very shallow.

gulligranny

Well of course now that we have a La-La-Labour government, "all things shall be well, all things shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well". So no worries.

What on earth does “la la” mean?

To do with the amount of cash you get to keep if in a care home. I think it's about 23 at the moment, approximately anyway.

Was this not one of Boris's ideas? I recall thinking that it was not likely to happen

Rekarie

To do with the amount of cash you get to keep if in a care home. I think it's about 23 at the moment, approximately anyway.

Was this not one of Boris's ideas? I recall thinking that it was not likely to happen

It was going to be increased to £80,000 I believe? Part of a Conservative manifesto that almost tempted me to vote for them but was never implemented? ( I’m going from memory so could be wrong).

Mr Johnson stood outside number 10 smiling, repeating he had an oven ready plan for social care. Lies

The Buffoon never had a social care plan, oven ready or not. The Tories underfunded public services including local Councils so it's not surprising several are effectively bankrupt including Tory controlled ones. It's going to take years to put right and it's the poor and old who will continue to suffer. Thank you Tories and good riddance.

He was also going to make the country healthy again after he realised his obesity had caused covid complications. From what I’ve seen of him recently he isn’t sticking to his diet. I can’t believe that people were happy for him to be representing us on the worlds stage.

Just a little reminder, money doesn't grow on trees. Everything has to be paid for out of our pockets, through taxation of us personally, companies, services and a host of other ways, but at the end of the day, sooner or later it coes out of our pockets.

You cannot look at one area of need , 'care, 'schools', 'universities' unless you see it in the context of what every other sector needs. I am in agreement, Care needs more money, but what sector are you going to take it from - whatabout the people suffering in poor schools, for example.

I am all in favour of lots of money for every needy government sector.

But remember today it was announced that the level of debt this country owes is 99.5% of GDP. The highest level since 1962, when we were still paying off huge WW2 debts.

And the sector that has absolute precedence over everything is paying the interest on our loans.

" Why is money set aside for elderly, disabled and vulnerable not ring-fenced? Or is this a deliberate policy - because respect for these groups is less than zilch?"

I quite agree Mae13 and this lack of respect for elderly and disabled people seems to be commonplace these days. What happened to striving for a compassionate and inclusive society!
I agree with whoever said that a society can be judged by how it treats its most vulnerable members.

maddyone

I didn’t realise that any money was set aside for social care. I’m not surprised it’s been spent if it was set aside.

At one point when the NHS was reeling, again, really needed funding from the bottom up, and there were 165k social care vacancies, Sunak said that Social Care would be getting £500m, within a fortnight it had halved!

Horrid story yesterday about some carers who came over on the Government Sponsorship Scheme. They had actually paid around £20,000 to the 'recruiter' (may have been the employing company?) to get the forms so that they could come over - the company that employs them as part of the scheme have to give them a guaranteed 29 hours per week, yet these hours were more like 3 - 15; they were unable to pay their bills to live and also had to pay back debt from where they got that original £20k. Bet there are a few companies that have cottoned on to that scam., fortunately not the one I use, I have checked!

Iam64

What Whitewave said.
Plus have you read or understood anything about austerity over the last 14 years

Whoops! I've trod on a Daily Mail readers' feelings......

La la might mean la la land. That’s the meaning where I come from. Just a speculation, may be wrong.

You lost me at ‘bleating’, OP.

mae13

Iam64

What Whitewave said.
Plus have you read or understood anything about austerity over the last 14 years

Whoops! I've trod on a Daily Mail readers' feelings......

You haven’t. Iam64 knows what she is talking about.

Do you understand about the requirement for Local Authorities to meet their statutory obligations?

mae13

Iam64

What Whitewave said.
Plus have you read or understood anything about austerity over the last 14 years

Whoops! I've trod on a Daily Mail readers' feelings......

If you knew how stupid that remark is you’d be embarrassed.

Can you tell us exactly which councils you are talking about, OP, how much money in total they had available, and what they have spent it on? Then it will be clear.

Are they "bleating" after overspending on unnecessary things - luxury official cars for all councillors, free booze at council meetings, private jets to fact-finding missions to exotic places, fur-lined loo seats in the executive washroom, laptops with solid gold cases?

Or are they pointing out that their social care budgets are already stretched between "austerity" from above cutting what they receive and the increasing needs and expenses of those they care for?

If people needing care can't contribute more than £X each for it, then there is only £X from each of them to spend on looking after them for their lifetime. The extra will have to come from somewhere - the only place is from what had already been committed to something else.