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So Just Where Has The Money Set Aside For Social Care Gone?

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mae13 Fri 19-Jul-24 05:18:44

Council's are bleating that the expected new cap on social care for 2025 (approx 84,000) cannot now be implemented - apparently the money that was earmarked to action this "has been spent elsewhere", they have confessed.

Where?

Time and again it seems funds for care are treated like a bottomless piggy bank by central and local government depts. that are slipshod at managing budgets. Why is money set aside for elderly, disabled and vulnerable not ring-fenced? Or is this a deliberate policy - because respect for these groups is less than zilch?

Norah Sat 03-Aug-24 11:07:25

Of course tax must be mandatory.

Rates could increase for high earners - that was my point.

High earners benefit from society, no reason for the drop to 2%

Current NI: £242 to £967 a week (£1,048 to £4,189 a month = 8%, Over £967 a week (£4,189 a month) = 2% . Two percent is ludicrous.

Grantanow Sat 10-Aug-24 10:32:06

Labour are pinning everything on economic growth to pay for all the things that need funding including social care. I doubt growth is going to happen. In the USA growth has been stimulated by massive government grants at the cost of racking up more debt. It may be the best that can be achieved in the UK is extra taxation.

Doodledog Sat 10-Aug-24 10:48:18

It may be the best that can be achieved in the UK is extra taxation.
In which case, so be it. We can't carry on as we've been doing.

The US is different anyway. The mentality of many is based on 'why should I pay for someone else's health or education', whereas here we are more egalitarian. We are used to a welfare state that is based on a cradle to grave ideal. For too long governments have assumed that the public want to pay less at all costs, but I think they were wrong, and that people can understand that if we all pay a bit more it will work out cheaper in the long run, as we'll get more back.

David49 Sat 10-Aug-24 10:58:57

It’s not going to be just extra taxation, as we have seen benefits will be restricted, WFA has already been withdrawn for most, there are a lot of other universal benefits that could be withdrawn.
There will also be some extra borrowing and some services will be reduced, there are plenty of ways Reeves can reduce spending as well as increase taxation

Grantanow Sat 10-Aug-24 18:04:44

I agree that it's possible to pay for some improvements through selective cuts, savings and more taxation but the shortfalls are so large that only growth could pay for them and I doubt any UK government's ability to bring it about.