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Hasn't some of Gransnet got shrill?

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absent Fri 12-Apr-13 20:26:12

I have (unfairly) been accused of all sorts of things from bullying an individual to the verbal equivalent of stalking and from terrorising the whole of the rest of Gransnet (poor weak and feeble creatures that you are) to deliberately and persistently misrepresenting what other people have posted, but I have never seen so many shrill posts as those appearing at the moment. Things seem to be becoming nasty and spiteful in a way that they have never been previously. There are quite a lot of childish na-na-nana type posts. Is it all to do with Baroness Thatcher – clearly as divisive in death as she was in life or is it something else all together? There have been comments about Gransnetters worshipping false gods and suggestions that those whose political leanings are to the left have, by definition, closed minds. What is happening? Is Gransnet going to fall apart when it is only two years old? How sad is that?

gillybob Sat 13-Apr-13 00:28:13

Thank YOU Goose it is actually kids not grans but the way things have been going lately this sprung to my mind and I thought it was equally appropriate to us grans! smile

kittylester Sat 13-Apr-13 07:33:00

Personally, I have found gn hugely supportive over this last rather trying period of my life. I have lots of support in real life but gn is a special extra. Luckily, I haven't had time to read many other threads. smile

absent Sat 13-Apr-13 07:40:05

All the media are particularly febrile at the moment so I suppose it is not surprising that Gransnet is too. What I do dislike is the veiled implication that of course you are entitled to your own opinion but your opinion is fallacious and you shouldn't be expressing it here. That has never been how Gransnet works and nor should it be.

glammanana Sat 13-Apr-13 08:08:29

Harrigran I agree with you with regard to the language used so unnecessary.sad

Elegran Sat 13-Apr-13 08:55:24

I wrote a post last night, looked at it, decided I really did not want to step between the contestants at that time of night and get sideswipes for my pains, and deleted it. If anyone else joins in this infighting and takes sides, or tries to make the participants see reason, they get told by one or other (or both, or by the bystanders) to MYOB.

I wish I had a diary recording the intervals between spats. It seems to be cyclic. For a while afterwards everything dies down and we all play nicely together, then one of gods on Mt Olympus decides it is too quiet and stirs up discord.

absent Sat 13-Apr-13 09:34:52

I'm fed up with this tiresomely reiterated image of grans "playing nicely together" and consider it insulting to intelligent mature women.

j08 Sat 13-Apr-13 09:42:28

Hear hear!!!

Nelliemoser Sat 13-Apr-13 09:45:09

One could mischievously speculate that the cyclical nature of these spats Elegran mentions might be down to PMT, but I would not want to bring the wrath of GN down on my head.

Anyway lots of us are past that stage! grin wink #runforcover.

Joke everyone! Let's lighten up here! grin

j08 Sat 13-Apr-13 09:46:19

You kidding we're past that stage!!! #longforgottenthankgawd grin

annodomini Sat 13-Apr-13 10:11:38

Thirty years ago, Nellie!

Movedalot Sat 13-Apr-13 10:12:52

I think bringing up this subject is probably a good thing and might make a few people question before posting. I just wish you had kept it less specific and selective absent because then it wouldn't have upset anyone which is, I hope, what it was intended to avoid.

I haven't been online since about midday yesterday so am probably about to find out a lot more of what has been happening.

Whatever we might feel about the things that have been said I do think we should be able to voice our feelings without foul language. Now that really is offensive.

Elegran Sat 13-Apr-13 10:22:56

I wondered about PMT too. Sorry to refer to you as children in the playground, but honestly! that is exactly what it sounds like when the "you started it" gets thrown around.

Returning to PMT I know there is some production of hormones after the menopause, and I think it could be cyclic. Galen will tell us.

Marelli Sat 13-Apr-13 10:48:48

I've followed the threads up to a point and I don't have specific knowledge and understanding of the actual politics of the time. At the time of the Miners' Strike I was working in a telecommunications factory, and saw the despair and worry on the faces of some of the women who also worked there who were wives and daughters of miners. They worked as much overtime as they possibly could and money and food was collected in the factory for these families. Families were broken and never mended. However, as my elderly sister-in-law (who is 85 and whose brothers, uncles and father worked in the pits here in Fife remarked the other day.....how many miners were given the chance and went ahead to buy their council houses?

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Sat 13-Apr-13 10:53:43

There's no doubt that feelings have been running rather high since the death of Margaret Thatcher. Everyone is - of course - free (& welcome) to have and share their own opinions but when things get heated please don't forget our rules and guidelines (there are few but they're important) and keep conversations within the threads where they began. Threads about threads are usually not constructive and may be deleted.

Eloethan Sat 13-Apr-13 10:53:52

The debates at the moment that are causing all this soul searching are about Mrs T. Most people that have posted have very strong feelings one way or the other. Some people, however, are unwilling to address the issues but have either made veiled sarcastic comments or have implied that certain points of view are morally unacceptable.

We are not children. Are only matters that are non-contentious to be discussed here? Should we go back to being old-fashioned grannies/granddads and concentrate on jam making and vegetable growing?

j08 Sat 13-Apr-13 11:00:14

I think "foul language" is almost bound to come out when a person gets really upset. There are worse things on the world than a few wtf' s.

janeainsworth Sat 13-Apr-13 11:14:33

jo8 you writing wtf doesn't bother me, but poster A telling poster B to FO certain does.

Eloethan Sat 13-Apr-13 11:26:21

jain so what you are illustrating is that it's all a matter of personal perception and taste.

harrigran Sat 13-Apr-13 11:29:41

jingl when I get really upset I do not use foul language nor do most of the people I know. Being upset is not an excuse to let rip at another.

janeainsworth Sat 13-Apr-13 11:37:26

Yes eloethan I am expressing a personal view - your point is ....?

POGS Sat 13-Apr-13 11:37:45

Elegran. I agree with your first post.

This is a thread about a thread about a thread about a thread. Another thread asked did we need all these threads prior to this one. confused

The wording of the OP, like a lot of OP's on other threads ,has an irony to it as the majority of us will view it's content naturally from our own perspective. That is precisely why and how we 'debate', if we didn't then it would merely be a posters 'statement' and what would be the point of joining in. After all the posts on all threads 'do invite others to reply', unless making a statement was the intention all along.

However it has got 'shrill', 'nasty' whatever you want to call it on a couple of threads. I have seen worse before and whilst it can become distasteful it is good to be able to see, consider and make a conclusion based on what we read for ourselves about each poster and how the issues arise. I would hate for GN to delete posts for that reason but I feel it is getting a bit close to call.

absent Sat 13-Apr-13 12:13:14

POGS This is not a thread about a thread about a thread. The OP is a comment about the general tone of postings on Gransnet on a variety of threads – not all of them related to Margaret Thatcher.

j08 Sat 13-Apr-13 12:27:21

Bluebell was feeling very "set upon". She felt that even her daughter was being included.

Just saying. Up to HQ really, how it's dealt with. Fairly I hope.

j08 Sat 13-Apr-13 12:29:08

And hopefully with a bit of compassion.

j08 Sat 13-Apr-13 12:31:05

Mind you, it is only a website forum on the effing internet. grin

#gettingabitheavy