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Andy Murray forgot his mum

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KatyK Sun 07-Jul-13 17:59:04

With all the sad son/daughter relationship problems I read about on here (including my own), was it wrong of me to take some small comfort from the fact that Andy Murray forgot his mom when hugging friends and family after his win? My thought was - it's not just me then ! Obviously he was overcome, but she's been there throughout it all - felt a bit sorry for her.

Nonu Tue 09-Jul-13 19:19:49

Sel !!

Obviously all your ducks are in a row , like mine .

smile

Sel Tue 09-Jul-13 19:12:47

Me neither Nonu although I always play to win smile

Sel Tue 09-Jul-13 19:09:59

Stanley Matthews? Didn't he play 60 years ago? He may have been a 'gentleman' but do you consider that he would have turned down the money that exceptional individual sportsmen can earn now? It's a different ball game (excuse the pun) Andy Murray will and has generated a huge amount of revenue for Wimbledon, the BBC, his sponsers now and to come. That is a good thing, it means many people have jobs, making, supplying and serving - all because one child had the grit and determination to put himself through years of gruelling work and pain. It's not exclusive, anyone can do it surely, hit or kick a ball? Lots of people I suspect are born with a degree of talent, it takes a whole different character to nurture that into a world class athlete.

Who have you seen grinding their opponents into the ground?

Nonu Tue 09-Jul-13 18:09:46

I do not mind losing at games , may best man win , I can assure I am not a loser "at all^.

janeainsworth Tue 09-Jul-13 17:49:42

Anno I agree - I'm reminded of the saying 'Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser'.
Deserving Most people cannot begin to comprehend the dedication, determination and the sacrifices winners make to get to the top. It is quite possible to be bitterly disappointed with one's performance and the result of a match, but still behave in a courteous fashion towards one's opponent and supporters.
Novak Djokovic exemplified this after the match on Sunday.

deserving Tue 09-Jul-13 15:07:43

I would ,of all the interpretations of jaundiced,like to think that your accusation of my opinion veered towards 'disappointed"or 'disillusioned' .It would from your demeanour however be more likely to be allied with "resentful","envious', 'jealous", but thats you isn't it? children are naturally ,competitive and can be naturally nasty as well, some of us attempt to civilise them,and show them that it is ok to be kind and considerate even when competing, after all how important is it to win,at the expense of someone else? It's a game, we play for fun, win or lose the taking part is whats important.
Thats a load of rubbish isn't it? You have got to beat someone into the ground, humiliate them,and punch the air to show how sportsmanlike you are, and how much better you are.Not that I am accusing A.m. of this, this appears to be the accepted idea of sportsmanship, that even some of the elderly seem to accept as good behaviour, easily sucked in aren't you?
That, that has become acceptable, is not necessarily acceptable, because it has become common practice.Consider some of the foul language that has become common parlance, the argot and patois that we hear, the disintegration of the society we knew ,so recently.How many times have you found yourselves saying, "What would my mother or father have thought of this,' or even, "what would my grand parents have said"?
A lot of this stems from the fact that the so called sportsmen, are the least "sporty" of all.They are talented in a particular field, and by hook or by crook they intend to make a kings ransom out of it, they need a team of intelligent managers to ensure this happens sometimes. Not having any business acumen themselves, but knowing when they are broke.this inevitably leads to high wages that are obscene, by anyones standards, and the high prices for the average person who wishes to see them perform.
"Life is competitive", because we, and I am not using the royal WE,have made it so. If you were not always trying to do someone down, not always trying to put something over on someone, not always trying to keep up with the Jonses, and doing all the other things that makes one feel better that your neighbours, or friends (I use the word friends with my tongue in my cheek) then we would all live in better times. Our husbands could go to see a match for half a crown again, well perhaps a little more.Does anyone know how much, the absolute gentleman, Stanley Matthews earned a week, at his peak?How many other players did he kick deliberately without thought for the damage he might do to their limbs and career?
time to go.

annodomini Tue 09-Jul-13 14:01:51

Don't most small children hate losing? One of my sisters was a 'sore loser'. We are, perhaps too good in this country at being 'good losers'. We need more winners - like Andy, Mo, Jess, and all the big winners at the Olympics.

Tegan Tue 09-Jul-13 13:07:32

I've long been interested in what drives someone to be successful; at sport in particular. For a start, it's not all about the money because it's a long way down the line that the financial rewards start to kick in. I always thought that, to be good at sport, you had to be physically capable, but then a friend who did showjumping explained how important the mental side of it was, and that's when it started to fascinate me. Has a long chat with my daughter about it yesterday, as she's training to do the race for life at the weekend but wants to do it in a really good time. Many years ago the school wanted her to do cross country running at county level but, although she's fiercely competitive in a lot of ways, she just didn't enjoy doing it so there was no point. Also puzzles me why, in this country more than any other, we seem to expect our successful people in any sphere to be 'nice' as well confused.

Sel Tue 09-Jul-13 12:43:13

Tegan couldn't agree more. deserving - a somewhat jaundiced view if I may say so. No one gets to the top in any discipline without being competitive. Life is competitive. AM seems like a nice guy, who wanted to win and did, with grace and humility. Did you feel the same about our athletes in the Olympics? Is it just that you object to the fact he will make a great deal of money? confused

Aka Tue 09-Jul-13 12:33:40

Yes, I know deserving but it won't be long before the royal baby appears and that could be even more boring worse hmm

Tegan Tue 09-Jul-13 12:04:23

That's not how Wimbledon appeared to me; people that didn't show respect for their opponent [such as the Polish guy] were given short shrift by the crowd and the majority of players showed total respect [especially in the post match interviews] for their opponent.

deserving Tue 09-Jul-13 09:16:46

All over then? not likely, we are to be inundated with tales of his youth ,the money he has earned, the money he is about to earn, how competitive he has always been, how sensitive he is and all the other drivel the media seems to think we need spoon feeding. the most illuminating bit of tittle tattle I heard was a relative, that was winkled out of the woodwork, to tell all in sundry that, as a boy, a little boy, when playing board games, at christmas, for example, he would storm off, if losing,tipping the board over.
And that demonstrates his competitiveness, and sportsmanship from an early age.gone are the days of the "gentlemen", the ones that played the game,had humanity, thought of the person opposite and their feelings,realised it was a game and good manners were paramount. this is I know, a pipe dream in this money motivated society, where the prizes are obscene.

merlotgran Mon 08-Jul-13 10:59:30

I was so worried that I'd forget to kiss my Dad (he was terminally ill) as we were leaving to go on honeymoon, I walked around calling, 'Where's Dad, Where's Dad?' I must have sounded like I was looking for a lost puppy.

I was just about to get in the car when I spotted Mum out of the corner of my eye. shock She's not someone you forget and live to tell the tale grin

feetlebaum Mon 08-Jul-13 10:50:57

I love the unbridled lust that permeates this thread..! Whooo!

MrsSB Mon 08-Jul-13 10:15:57

I'm guessing he doesn't need to hug his mum in public for her to know he appreciates all she's done for him. And I'm sure he was feeling a bit bewildered by it all at that particular moment anyway. Mums generally forgive their kids for most things, I'm sure this will be no exception.

Hunt Mon 08-Jul-13 09:56:39

I sympathise with Andy. I forgot to kiss my Mum after my wedding. As we sped off into the sunset on our honeymoon I remember banging on the back window shouting, 'I didn't kiss my Mum!' At least he had the chance to go back and remedy the situation.

Greatnan Mon 08-Jul-13 09:51:20

His mum just telephoned The Wright Stuff and was very annoyed that anybody should criticise him!

j08 Mon 08-Jul-13 09:42:07

Oh yes! (why didn't he???!)

That would have been so good!

Bags Mon 08-Jul-13 09:19:05

He'd look great in the kilt.

j08 Mon 08-Jul-13 09:15:33

he looks better in his shorts

j08 Mon 08-Jul-13 09:12:06

Who was the other grey haired lady he hugged? Was his granny there? hmm

MaggieP Mon 08-Jul-13 09:10:27

Judy was at the back , away from Kim/Lendl/Ross and the other group, so probably why he missed her in the excited rush to get over there.
Nice pics of last night's Ball and Andy hugging both Parents together smile

Aka Mon 08-Jul-13 08:51:29

Leave the poor lad alone. I saw him hug his mum anyway or was that another grey-haired lady?

shysal Mon 08-Jul-13 08:44:17

Thanks peaches, I am none the wiser, never heard of them! Good looking though.

PRINTMISS Mon 08-Jul-13 08:43:28

I am with you there numberplease. It is great that Andy Murray has won at last, but did we really need two whole weeks of almost wall to wall tennis? Well done Andy - don't care what nationality you are, you obviously gave a lot of people a lot of pleasure and deserved the success.