Andy Murray forgot his mum

I do think that some sports /arts have become so commercial that it is hard for 'ordinary' people to watch and enjoy them live. The cost of tickets to sporting /arts events is high but that is not always the fault of the athletes/sportswo/men or artists. I am happy to say 'Wow' and enjoy someone else's success when they reach the peak of their profession or create / do something amazing. However as a society we are selective in what we choose to get over excited about and that is because we like it when we can be a spectator: sport, art, music, dance, theatre, film etc.

When a surgeon completes his 1000th successful life changing operation, when the amazing teacher gets a concept through to yet another class of kids or the sewage guy prevents another stinking flood and the soldier defuses another explosive device we don't know about it! It can take as much hard work and dedication to be excellent at many jobs as it does for those we hear about and the financial rewards will never be equal. If I got angry about each one I would be miserable as sin. So best to work pro-actively to change things through campaigning, lobbying etc or accept that that is life and cherry pick what you want to see /read/watch.

Nonu aka Delia

Nonu, yes, every member can 'have their say' but that does not mean we can insult each other. The idea of debate is to discuss ideas. Forum guidelines are quite clear.

I understand your frustration nanaej but there are very few Andy Murrays or any other elite sportsman. That makes them ultra marketable and watchable. People will pay for both. Every job is of equal worth, morally. We are all interdependent but some will earn more. It's life, open entry.

Sel ,you do realise i hope that himself is an avid Norwich City supporter , so you you insult her at your peril . As for me I could not give two flying f---s about her .

greatnan , who has DEV. insulted ?

Ooh Nonu I didn't realise you had this cross to bear. Must be good to get him out of the country, no Delia in the US

Actually I think deserving addressed her\his remarks to me. So thank you greatnan

I presume the terms were being applied to Sel, as she was the member who had used the term 'jaundiced'. However, I found deserving's post extremely hard to follow.

Posts crossed, Sel.

I am not frustrated by the situation. I understand fully the reasons why we laud some more than others. I was really responding to deserving post who appeared very angry about the amounts of money some individuals earn. I agree that it oftn appears hugely out of proportion.

I just go on protesting/lobbying etc and that avoids frustration. At least I am one of the many people doing something and not just complaining. Though sometimes I do get to boiling point and have to let off steam...but not about AM.

p.s NOT suggesting that others are not pro-active in campaigning for their particular 'bees in bonnets'. But those who just moan about everything are a real pain.

Well he is pretty chuffed they are 11th in the premier league.

As for getting him Stateside gets moans about "I will be missing so & so match , do you know what , I DON"T CARE !

i must be an awful wife , wish I was one of them 50 "s wives , LOL

Tegan Me too with flying balls!

I thought some of the barbs were directed at me. Not that it bothers me.

GN I wouldn't have thought you would have had difficulty understanding, not trying to have me barred are you? (and to help, I don't mean marked with stripes)
I referred to an interpretation of the word, jaundiced, or more correctly, so that some will not get even more confused,several meanings associated with the word.
Well done Nonu, you seem to have grasped the point.Seems that only opinions that coincide with those opined by the regulars are considered relevant,as was said,I pop up now and then to see if any progress has been made with the quality, and to see how bumptious some can get when on "high horses".do not wish to discombobulate those that bother to read what is said, but often it seems that apophenia takes over.
We all have opinions, some are best kept to ourselves, commenting on others opinions rather than the subject is apparently still more edifying to the old stagers.
As has been touched on,probably without realising, SPORT, is a business, its a money making racket, (no pun intended} we seem to thing winning is the only reason for existence, I would have liked to see a match between mother Teressa and perhaps Ghandi, where a handful of rice was NOT involved.

Now, i assume that we have all, by now, looked up the meaning of apophenia and are wondering how on earth it fits the context of what D is saying. Nuff said. I give up.

I grasped the point!!

Bit of projection onto others going on?

I don't think mixed singles is yet a possibility although I understand Serena Williams and Andy Murray are planning a match in Vegas.

As to opinions being seen as relevant - they seem to be discussed/agreed with/dismissed in equal measure.
PS apologies if I am being picky - what do you mean by apophenia? Did you mean apopthegm?

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I agree there are a lot of random comments that have no apparent link to the OP but not sure if that counts as apophenia. Or deserving are you suggesting that the personal sniping that goes on on a variety of threads appear random but in fact are predictable as they follow a pattern?

How do people look up a word find an alternative and pop back on to type screeds? Are you all pitmans starred pupils? How do you do it? I haven't got as far as the bookcase yet. I think I agree with everyone so far .

I think most of us look up the meaning of unknown words online, Stansgran.

This is useful Stansgran - bookmark it: www.onelook.com

Has loads of dictionaries and looks your word up in all of them!

Not necessarily, Ana - OED in the study usually.