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Any views on faith healing?

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Jane10 Mon 19-Dec-16 15:50:55

I was idly thinking about this yesterday. You don't hear much about it these days. My Dad a, fairly cynical GP, certainly had a few examples of patients who had made miracle recoveries that he couldn't account for scientifically. It led him to have quite an open mind about these things.
Do any of you have any experience or views on faith healing?

Jane10 Mon 19-Dec-16 21:05:43

Well I would be grateful if someone would pray that my knee's range of movement would improve!
I didn't mean this topic to wander into religious beliefs btw. I was just interested in, for want of better words, healing that that can't be explained by current scientific knowledge.

Synonymous Mon 19-Dec-16 21:05:50

Sadly it is obvious that the link I gave earlier was not used because it gives answers for all these questions.

For those who long to see:

creation.com/why-us-the-problem-of-evil

Synonymous Mon 19-Dec-16 21:07:41

Jane Nothing ever happens without a reason! Thank you for a stimulating thread. smile

Synonymous Mon 19-Dec-16 21:11:49

PS Already asking the Lord! Just remember that the answer is not always straightforward. Sometimes it is 'Yes', sometimes 'No', other times it can be 'Not yet' and yet other times it is 'That is not my way'. I expect I have missed some too!smile

Jane10 Mon 19-Dec-16 21:13:18

Oh blimey!

Synonymous Mon 19-Dec-16 21:15:49

Jane I don't think you really mean what you said on this last post! shock hmm smile

Anniebach Mon 19-Dec-16 21:21:12

Jane, can everything be explained by scientific knowledge ? Did you need scientific knowledge to explain why you fell madly in love ? smile , doubt it, you just accepted and returned the love . So I think it's the same with healing which has no scientific evidence , just accept it with gratitude

Jane10 Mon 19-Dec-16 21:49:48

I entirely agree Anniebach. I feel sorry for the 'science can explain everything' people. I am absolutely sure there is a need to keep an open mind and a questing heart.

Deedaa Mon 19-Dec-16 22:16:44

Some years ago DS was in an awful state with apparent allergies and anaphylaxis which seemed to be psychological but had very physical effects. Special diets and seeing his GP didn't seem to help. On holiday in Naples I found a church dedicated to a doctor who had many miraculous cures attributed to him and a brought home a prayer card from it. DS was appalled when I gave it to him because his level of atheism makes Richard Dawkins look like an early christian martyr. However he didn't have any more attacks and there were no more dashes to A&E. If you ask him about it he will deny the whole thing.

granjura Mon 19-Dec-16 22:33:44

Well at least we now know re-incarnation on GN is a reality.

durhamjen Mon 19-Dec-16 22:41:36

Yes, I agree, granjura.
Jane, I'd like my wrist to heal properly, too. Maybe that's what the NHS thought would happen when they said I didn't need physio, it would heal because because of my faith in alternative medicine.

Anya Mon 19-Dec-16 22:49:49

Your wrist still painful DJ? People keep commenting what a strange shape mine is - it's definitely 'healed' out of line.

I did get NHS physio, but to be honest, it was a waste of time. I paid for two private seasons and that was much better. I've been doing the exercises and, this week, I can feel an improvement. It's still an odd shape but now at least I can take some weight on it.

Would really recommend a good private physio. Mine was recommend by DS who is always injuring something.

Anya Mon 19-Dec-16 22:50:26

Can recommend some exercises too if you want.

Anniebach Mon 19-Dec-16 22:54:10

Granjura grin

Deedaa, how interesting to learn of your sons recovery

Jen, sorry your wrist still hasn't healed

Jane, yes an open mind , so important

Anya Mon 19-Dec-16 22:57:52

Had success with Reiki for painful knees.

durhamjen Mon 19-Dec-16 23:02:13

Like you, say, it's an odd shape. Apparently I don't have the flexion in it. I have physio, every two weeks, paying for it. You can imagine what I think about that!

Can't chop veg properly, which is sad for a vegetarian. I do exercises to try and build up the strength.
I have enough strength to grip and turn a steering wheel now, but not to use a knife.
We both need to have more faith in healing.

durhamjen Mon 19-Dec-16 23:05:04

My husband started learning Reiki for his pain. I still have the course somewhere. He gave up when it started to become too religious for him.

Jane10 Tue 20-Dec-16 07:46:57

In desperation a few years back when I had awful sciatica, I booked a session with a Reiki practitioner. I'd tried everything else so thought I'd give it a go.
I went to this woman's house and lay on a massage couch in her sitting room. I felt daft! She was plainly a nice woman and very sincere. I just lay there with my eyes closed and she did her thing whatever that was. She didn't touch me at all. I paid and left. Back home, sitting gingerly at my desk I suddenly felt an icy cold trickle down my right side. Pain went completely. Having had sciatica off and on for years, I never had it again. No explanation but I'm not complaining. Also I won't slag off Reiki!!

thatbags Tue 20-Dec-16 08:26:32

I tried acupuncture for my arthritis. It didn't work. I tried various NLP methods for my arthritis. Didn't work. I tried glucosamine. Didn't work.

Double blind trial tested painkillers (various) give the most effective relief.

There's no cure but I'm pinning my hopes (for others, in the future) on gene modopification or some other ground-breaking new medical whizz.

thatbags Tue 20-Dec-16 08:27:31

My faith in rigorously practiced double blind medical trials is extremely strong.

granjura Tue 20-Dec-16 08:44:03

accupuncture works on nerves/endings- and is a totally different kettle of fish. My OH trained in acupuncture just out of interest- as a sceptic and with 30 years in practice- and was totally amazed by the results with joint pain- for a large % of people.

In Leics I had a wonderful Shiatsu practitioner- who helped me tremendously - again, working on accupressure points, massage and stretches. There is no comparison to Faith Healing- although, as in traditionao medicine too, the placebo effect must take a part.

Bobbysgirl19 Tue 20-Dec-16 09:22:42

I agree with your views entirely janeainsworth, cannot accept that someone sits above and decides who should and should not recover from terrible illnesses and suffering. Mass deaths of babies through starvation? Part of some greater plan? Excuse me but a definite no no.

Anniebach Tue 20-Dec-16 09:29:00

Thinking of the food grown /made by man , bought by man and thrown in the bin this weekend by man is God's doing? exvuse me but s definite no no

Luckygirl Tue 20-Dec-16 09:42:04

I do not think that science can explain everything - yet. There are things that science has now been able to explain that previously were inexplicable and attributed to divine intervention. No doubt at some point in the future many things that we cannot understand now will become clear through rigorous research.

If god is all powerful he/she has the power to prevent the suffering of children but chooses not to. Is this because we are being punished for our sins? Let us hope that any god (should there be one) is not so petty and vindictive.

I choose to believe in love and kindness and do my best to aspire to this - though I often fail. There is nothing more that we as individuals can do.

Anniebach Tue 20-Dec-16 09:45:28

what would some do if they couldn't blame God for all the ills in the world