ISIS girl

Quit the sob stories !
How many of these babies/children have grown up in this country who are trained terrorists ? There are 900 wanting to come back from Syria-----Get Real !

It is in some, Anja.

The baby's father is Dutch so he has dual nationality Dutch/British. I don't think the Dutch are trying to get him relocated to Holland are they?

Are you an expert in genetics EV?

How is this baby in any way responsible for the actions of his stupid mother?

There are many things which are so troubling about this " case". I can't believe the thirst for detail and almost voyeuristic attitude by some people. Good God! Denise Welsh has waded in!!
Its a complex situation. Do not believe everything you read. Does it not occur that we are all being manipulated by this bile spilling out from the gutter press.

900 coming back and been given council housing?

I'd still like proof that this baby actually exists and before you accuse me of being a demented conspiracy theorist, put your thinking heads on.

We were told she was pregnant and wanted to return because she wanted her baby to be brought up in the UK.

She suddenly gives birth.

She is interviewed with a woman holding a baby. It's poorly wrapped up - could have been fish and chips had a stray leg not popped out which was hastily shoved back. The baby's face was completely covered.

The next time Samima is interviewed she arrives with the baby under her clothes. Once again we don't see it although we do hear a cry.

We have no proof that this is her baby. Are there any pictures of her pregnant? It could be that the reason we are not seeing it is because they don't have an available new born to pass of as hers.

Surely a mother who wants to return to the home of her birth with her new born would be cradling it and allowing it to be photographed. That would be a far better way to gain sympathy and understanding.

ISIS are being dispersed. There will be a new wave of terrorism based on smaller cells and lone wolf attacks. We don't know how involved Shamima Begum still is and it's something we should be very wary of.

OK. You can lock me up now!

There’s no proof you are wrong Merlotgran

Lily65, why not do your own researching instead of giving me your thinly- veiled digs about council houses ?
If you read the headlines of the Daily Star Oct.2017 you'll see that it reads;
Jihadis returning from Syria to be given Council Houses in Britain.

This whole "episode" smells more than a week old fish??

That under secret government plans they could leap to the top of the housing list. And the fighters will be offered counselling and opportunities in searching for work.

Operation Constrain-------read it !

Even though she had already been pleading to return to UK safety she still went ahead and named the alleged baby after a fundamentalist war Lord. She's not in the least bit repentant.

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As much as I don't really want someone with her views living in my country, Britain is a democratic country and she has a British passport and was born here, she is entitled to return, however she should not receive any help with transport, plane tickets or housing, her family should look after her. If she applies for social housing she should be treated like everyone else on the waiting lists.

She will never be free, as she will always be under surveillance, her phone calls will be monitored and she may have to face charges of treason.

This young woman is going to cost this country so much money over the years.

It has been said that she would in all probability be given a new identity along with protection. Shameful. Housing and benefits of course go without saying.

The main thing is that we have no proof at all that she is telling the truth about the two children she supposedly had who died, or that she has just given birth.

There is an urgent need to bring in legislation to prevent this woman, and others like her from returning here.

“analysts say there is an urgent need to coordinate police, intelligence, mental health and social work for thousands of potential threats who are known to authorities but cannot be jailed“

article in the Independent about Operation Constrain

If she is lying about having given birth, that is quickly and easily verified without the use of the Witchfinder General, peeps!

Aaaaaand it hardly needs saying that a DNA test would quickly confirm any baby was hers - or not.

EV, there is nothing thinly veiled about my comments. Assertions have been made about hundreds of ex IS being given council houses. I did some research and could discover no truth in this at all. I therefore asked for a link to be provided.

So I conclude it is not true.

"British jihadis suspected of fighting in Syria could be offered help with finding jobs and counselling, it has been reported."

Note the use of the word " could ".

Believe what you wish but it made headlines in the Daily Star in 2017.

If the extremists do not have suitable accommodation, the council’s housing department will try to put them in social housing and may pay their rent if they are poor. They could also be given priority on waiting lists

" will try" " could be given"

They could leap to the top of the housing waiting list under the secret government plans

From the Star...note the use of the word " could"

Sparkynan
She doesn't have a passport. She travelled on her older sisters.

Can I ask those who are poo pooing the council house report!

Where do you think she would live if not in prison? A mortgage maybe? Affordable housing?