I feel sorry for Prince Harry

I remember there was some talk a while back from H saying he would love to spend part of the year in Africa as he felt it was his second home.

Well that idea was knocked on the head despite M gushing to the locals on their recent visit that she was their sister , a woman of colour.

I think that is a very good indicator as to who is calling the shots regarding the relocation to the US , as if anyone was in any doubt.

Yes he loves Africa,

Most of what you read in the press is pure fiction. Just read different papers and you will see totally different accounts of all news. I'm not a royalist and think that the royal family are a huge waste of public money and resources. Hopefully Harry and Megan will now finance themselves and I wish them all the best. Hope they can all make up with their respective families as life is too short for grudges.

M gushing to the locals

Do you have any more information on either the gushing or the local please.

jenniferEccles
I remember that.

Sparkii
It's all there on the net.

Sparkii
A short while ago you said your weren't interested in the royle family and you couldn't care less: but now your asking for more information ?

'What Meghan wants Meghan gets'! and that was before the wedding! says it all really!
Frankly, I think they've behaved disgracefully towards the RF particularly HM! They're not children and their demands are selfish and deeply discourteous! Could they not have waited till after the D of C's birthday? No of course not, everything is about THEM,and no one else matters! If PH is suffering from mental trauma,then get professional help! After all, they can afford the best that money can buy, unlike the rest of us who struggle with the vagaries of the NHS. I hope these two go away and never return! Oh! and pay your own security while you're at it!

I expect the security aspect would have been a challenge in Africa.
Canada or USA seems a better long term prospect, job opportunities, Archie’s education, celebrity connections.
Africa ok for holidays and royal tours, not so appealing to actually reside there.

I am not interested in the royal family. They have no say in governing the country and are ignorant of how the ordinary people live.

I feel sorry for Harry because I think he’s stuck in the middle he obviously loves his wife & son but I think will be broken hearted about leaving his family.Meghan has nothing to do with any of her family apart from her mother & now she is causing a split in Harry’s family.
Canada is a beautiful country but it’s still not his home & I think he will miss his family & home.
Feel really sorry for the HRH the queen too,she must feel really let down,they didn’t even spend Christmas at Sandringham & it could be the Duke’s last Christmas.Its all very sad,they had a fairytale wedding & whatever anyone says it’s not about skin colour or race.Meghan wants to be a celebrity & it’s fine as long as they renounce their titles,the money they receive & pay for their own security,I don’t see why the taxpayers should foot the bill.

they have no say in governing the country

That is *exactly why we need to retain the monarchy, a monarch as Head of State.

I think they are well aware of how others life, he ce the charitable trusts they begin.

*Sparkii
A short while ago you said your weren't interested in the royle family and you couldn't care less: but now your asking for more information ?*

Perhaps I had eaten too many winegums.

I feel sorry for harry too.having to deal with tradition and royal family protocol is difficult.meghan being canadian etc is very different from being british.think its a good idea that they get out of outdated ideas .he shouldnt have married meghan till he was very sure of her.maybe a lo g engagement to see if she could settle in Britain.i expect harry thought i can do it if william can.basically i cant see the marriage lasting

I do think it is time to back off. I am sure that H knows what he is leaving behind. It is good that he is having a few days away from what does seem like a very dominating wife. H is between a rock and a hard place. Yes we do wonder if he will still be married in five years, if he will still be able to access his child. So many unknowns but apart from the links to public expenditure, really it is none of our business. It has been done to death

Can't tell you how relieved I am that any issues in my own life, or the lives of my loved ones haven't been covered by our press.
I remain yours -astounded by the level of cruelty on this and other threads about Meghan and Harry.

I agree with eazybee (haven't read all the posts). Meghan and Harry had the wedding they wanted, strange though the guest list was - only her mother present, not all the RF, lots and lots of A-listers (did M and H really know all those people?). Meghan is estranged from her family and now Harry seems to be estranged from his. Looks like Archie will not get to know his cousins, the impression I have is of the younger royals and their children being in touch with each other. Can't help but think that they might be a bit isolated in Canada. We hear about Meghan's friends but not Harry's. Does he have any now? Meghan took on a few charities after marriage, I don't see why she couldn't have given herself to those and probably some others but still have a private family life. They stirred up public interest by the secrecy surrounding the christening, god parents etc. Interest in them would probably have died down, the press generally leave the other royals alone.

Harry's obsession with the press and privacy in relation to his mother is not entirely realistic. Diana used the press, leaked stories, was often not at home with her boys, had affairs, and when she was killed she had just been on holiday with Fayed's son and was gadding about with him in Paris.

Auntie Anne should maybe have had a word with Meghan. Or perhaps someone should have given Meghan a copy of Lady Anne Glenconner's recent book.

I don't have an indepth knowledge of things Royal, never mind*

Nope not just Royal Sparkii

On a somewhat lighter note, two songs by Queen come to mind re Harry and Megan.
"I Want To Break Free " - Harry
" I Want It All, I Want It All, And I Want It Now" - Megan

Perhaps Meghan underestimated just how difficult it would be to settle in the UK. So much has happened to her over the last few years it's like a rollercoaster. Harry also might have not realised how much attention there was going to be on them. I do feel quite sorry for him really.

Paperbackwriter, I can’t help thinking that if Meghan felt isolated from her family (?) and friends over here, then surely Harry will feel isolated from his family (a large family who love him apparently) and friends if he’s over there. So it’s not alright for her to feel isolated but it is alright for him to be isolated. I don’t understand that at all.

I read the Daily Mail Minera?. What do you read Guardian, times ?

I don’t think any of this has anything at all to do with us, so we should just mind our own business.We don’t know all the ins and outs of the situation, so we should stop speculating!

Collette13, great post, summing up the situation perfectly. (Today at 4.12)

I feel deeply sorry for William. There was mention of an idea that William would be responsible for the UK and Harry for the Commonwealth as a sort of job sharing - as it is now William will have to take on the lot as the rest of the RF fall by the wayside. Harry was the perfect complement to William’s quieter personality. It is not as though they choose to be or not to be King - it is a birthright, honour and responsibility that is inherited. This is the crux of the matter and highlights the difference in attitude between North Americans - typified by Me too and the phrase ‘it is not enough to survive but to thrive’ and the UK attitude, at least in the RF, of “I live to serve my people”. Of course we might all quite reasonably say it is out of date and irrelevant, but to those growing up in it, or joining it, that is the way it is, and asking advice from the likes of Oprah Winfrey, etc, much as I admire her, is never going to help matters. I wonder if they ever talked in depth with Princess Anne, and Prince Edward and their families?
I note that President Trudeau expressed himself very carefully and made no promise that his country would pick up the the cost of security.
Harry will be a great loss to those older Brits who took him to their hearts, but more importantly, as he gets old enough to look back, I hope he will be content with his decision and have no regrets, and feel some compassion for his older brother who really has no choice but to do his duty.

Quizqueen and Lizbetthann, absolutely to both your posts.
Sparklefizz, thank you for your link to The Tattler, and yes indeed, that’s what could have been done, but I’m not sure Meghan ever really intended to stay in the UK. There have been too many leaks from her past friends saying that she never intended to stay. Maybe they’re true, given what has happened over the last few days.