Anyone else scared

merlotgran what an excellent comment. I think you are very correct. I live on my own so it is very difficult to stop the perpetual circle of thoughts, though I do try. I do tell my cats about how things are but I don’t often get a sensible answer. ?

First of all Artdecogran congratulations on your new grandson! ?
When I look at my grandchildren, indeed any little ones, I find myself more scared for their future than I am for myself so your fears are entirely understandable. Also normal but I also think that the enforced inactivity we are being obliged to undergo doesn't help. Most of us are happiest “doing something” it’s what Mums do - so perhaps once they are home (depending on where they live) you can offer practical help - cooking, baking, ironing if near enough, but also Zoom or FaceTime contact with the boys, if they are little, reading them a bedtime story or hearing their reading.
Most of all, you will not want to add to any worries by getting sick yourself - so stay well - they need their Gran and when this is over you can enjoy that relationship with the new little one.

Gaga1950 that is exactly what happened when there was a fear of an epidemic of Swine Flu. The government stocked up with millions of doses of Tamiflu. When the Swine flu was contained and didn't become an epidemic and a few years later all these doses of Tamiflu had to be destroyed the health authorities were criticised for getting it wrong, and wasting money by ordering all these drugs that were not needed.

Damned if you do and damned if you dont, government, of any persuasion, doesn't get a chance.

Artdecogran, you have real cause to be worried about your daughter and family, and I truly hope everything goes well for you all,

But I tend to agree with the saying. 'You have nothing to fear by fear itself'. Fear so often freezes people mentally and physically and stops them tinking or dealing rationally with the problems that threaten them.

I don't go out to shops but I feel heartened by how the supermarkets have risen to the practical and moral challenge.

What frightens me is death not my own death.

Congratulations Artdeco. This ghastly time will pass and you can be with your family, God willing.

I forgot to congratulate you, Artdecogran

had the government - of whatever it’s political colour had had ventilators, ICU beds, medical staff all mothballed waiting for an event that might never occur imagine the accusations of waste and incompetence that would have been circulated.

Instead of mothballing, it could have had a system of supply ready to go, if needed.

Or, failing that, it could have accepted the offers of supplies that were made to it by medical manufacturers, instead of commissioning Dyson to start from scratch.

Or it could even have joined with EU countries to order supplies, putting aside petty notions of brexit in the face of the crisis.

I’m scared senseless when my dh insists on going into shops or the local pharmacist even when he’s deemed at high risk He knows well we have loads of support from others and we’re not short of food or anything. He’s a law unto himself and won’t heed what risk he might be bringing in to me. I’m at high risk too. We’re at war most times with each other and no amount of cadjoling will cease his wanderings what am I to

I'm apprehensive but not scared.In many ways I am feeling better than I did before this started.My husband died 5 months ago and my days were miserable but the covid19 has taken over and his death somehow has been overshadowed.I still miss him but he is not continuously in my thoughts.He had a very severe lung condition ,on oxygen 16 hours a day,progressive dementia ,careers twice a day,diabetic and other health issues.He could not have coped with this,so I am relieved that he died before this started.

Condolences HarryFletcher on your loss ?
Elizabeth1 I can feel your fear. I’d be terrified. Forget cajoling - tell him if he doesn’t desist you’re going to divorce him when this is all over. For you ?

Urmstongran, divorce is a little drastic, isn't it? I'd just lock him out and insist he lives in the garage, shed or car!

@52Bright & @Hetty58
I can hardly wait for the Independent Inquiry/Royal Commission investigation into how BoJo et all dealt with this calamity.

I'm betting that what comes out will surprise and shock.

harryfletcher I’m so sorry that your husband died so recently. My husband died 15 months ago and some days I feel okay then others I’m crying over a stupid advert. I am sure you are right that he is better off out of it, but it is very hard isn’t it to cope with all this turmoil on your own. As others have said to me just go day by day, hour by hour and minute by minute if you need to. Sending you best wishes and hoping you can keep safe.

elizabeth1 do you live in a house? Can you take the upstairs and leave him downstairs? Or he takes upstairs and you downstairs? Failing that I would seriously entertain the idea of locking him out, leave a bag on the doorstep with some clothes, toiletries etc. Leave him a note saying what you have said here and tell him to find somewhere else to stay for the duration. Of course, you can say all this and when he has go the message let him back in. I think he needs to have a short sharp shock to bring him to his senses. Good luck. Keep us updated with what happens please.

Elizabeth1, do you have a relative or friend who could speak to him bluntly about the risks he is taking and the real fear he is causing to you?
It might be effective coming from someone else.

Two of my sons friends lost their mothers yesterday to the virus.We are in a small town and it certainly brings it home to you.Both women were in their 50's my son is very shaken by the news as he has known these women since he was in primary school .To be honest I was quite stressed by it too as one only lived a few hundred yards from us .I'm just glad my allergy symptoms have been around for weeks or I'd have been scared witless.

*paddyanne+

Really sorry paddyane, you have more than enough on your plate.

Elizabeth1 on the other hand you could just say if he doesn’t stop you’ll report him to the Police.
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Or your doctor.
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It’s serious and you are at risk. x

I wasn`t scared, was prepared to brave it all out, but now I`m scared for my son. He`s already battling lung cancer with only one working lung, but yesterday he was told that he has contracted the coronavirus. He feels terrible, and I do because I can`t help.

I'm so sorry you have this worry callgirl. I thought your post about Jakemans yesterday was a wonderful example of gestures that strengthen and hearten us in these awful times.

Are you in touch with your son via messenger, Skype or similar? Try and stay positive although it's easy for me to say that.

Best Wishes.

My DS’s supervisor has died . He is distraught and his anxieties are becoming out of control .

My dad made a good point tonight . The older people who are isolated might come out of this okay, but what about the young ones who are doing all the caring ?

Merlot, we speak on the phone most days, but I also have a camera in here that he can access on his phone, so he can see us, and we can talk through it as well. Trouble is, I can`t see him, I don`t have one of those fancy new fangled phones, Id be lost if I had, not being technically minded.

Onelife. You really are making an awful lot of assumptions. A number of forum members volunteer regularly and also provide child care for their families which in turn allows their children to work.

Bullying and hectoring people under any circumstances is unacceptable and lecturing people who have found a safe space to express their anxiety is unkind and unnecessary.

I am sure you will be canonised once this is all over!?

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So sorry for those who have now got additional worries and sorrow to cope with. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Sending you a very gentle hug.