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Why is everyone so bothered about the rule of 6 and Christmas.....

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M0nica Mon 14-Sept-20 19:15:05

...or Halloween. Remember the shut down at the end of Ramadan? The evening before Eid, the big celebration for Muslims, with homes and restaurants stacked with food and tables laid. Then the government pulled the rug from under them. No national outrage then.

What about Diwali, due mid November? I haven't seen any outrage over the fact that that celebration as well will be affected. As it is six weeks before Christmas, it is more likely to be affected.

Yes, we all love Christmas and Halloween, it will be sad if there are limitations, but let us remember all those other communities who do not celebrate Christmas and whose own celebrations and festivals, are as important to them as Christmas is to us, currently, they seem to be expected to just grin and bear it. If they have/will have to do it then so can we.

Nannapat1 Tue 15-Sept-20 10:05:59

I think there was upset over cancelled Eid celebrations! Some of us have large extended families who enjoy Christmas get together and I think it is perfectly ok to feel disappointed that this year may be different

Teddy123 Tue 15-Sept-20 10:07:35

I truly hadn't thought that far ahead until various people mentioned it. Small price to pay in order to be around in 2021..... In my humble opinion. In any event I'm guessing the majority will carry on with their normal big Christmas apart from Christmas Eve at Church.

TrendyNannie6 Tue 15-Sept-20 10:08:04

Good post grannywanny agree it goes without saying

4allweknow Tue 15-Sept-20 10:09:03

It's a case of never mind others as long as I am allright. The media is whipping up a storm. Other religions did have restrictions placed on their celebrations and probably as will be for Christmas if the rule of 6 still applies some ignored and some complied with them. At times I feel sad at how hypocritical we can be given how churches are being sold off due to lack of use yet so much time and money is spent celebrating Christmas. Santa Claus is another matter.

Maggiemaybe Tue 15-Sept-20 10:13:27

I have friends of different faiths and none, and we’d all be disappointed if Christmas was “cancelled”. All the families I know of the Islamic faith have get-togethers, trees, stockings, cards. When a well-meaning temporary headteacher of mine decided it wasn’t culturally sensitive for our multi-cultural school to have a nativity play, carol service or Christmas Fair, the loudest protests came from the Muslim community. Of course they were disappointed about Eid, as I was about Easter, but they really don’t need anybody to be outraged on their behalf.

annifrance Tue 15-Sept-20 10:13:50

Succinctly put as ever, M0nica. (Good to see you back again). It really shouldn't bother anyone, whatever religion or not, that Christmas is reduced to limited numbers, just for once. It is what the situation requires.

Davida1968 Tue 15-Sept-20 10:16:56

Good grief, Christmas is three months away! At the moment, all I can deal with is the here and now.... Who knows where we'll be in December? IMO it makes sense to get on with life as best we can and to make the most of each day as it comes. I continue to gather up Christmas gifts as I go through the year (these are all modest gifts, in my family) but (for me) "plans" simply can't be made at the moment.

Bazza Tue 15-Sept-20 10:18:13

I’m with jenniferEccles, Christmas is over 100 days away ( I think) so I’m hoping for the best.

Callistemon Tue 15-Sept-20 10:20:39

Christmas is three months away

Thank goodness! I was beginning to wonder as an email plopped into my inbox yesterday announcing 'Christmas is here!' from an online shop.

No it is not.

Maggiemaybe Tue 15-Sept-20 10:21:52

It’ll soon be time to put the sprouts on though.....

maddyone Tue 15-Sept-20 10:25:54

Cherrytree, completely agree with you.
It was reported that the police raided restaurants that were full of people at Eid.

Scottiebear Tue 15-Sept-20 10:25:56

I think most people are aware and sympathetic to anyone who has had to cancel or will have to cancel gatherings, whether it be religious or purely social. Poor brides and grooms who have already had to change their wedding dates once and must be wondering if they will be able to go ahead with new dates. Many religious gatherings have been badly affected. But surely we are still allowed to feel sad that Christmas may be a non event as far as family get togethers are affected. For some families it's the one time a year that the whole family can get together. It doesn't mean we consider a Christmas event more important than any other.

V3ra Tue 15-Sept-20 10:26:57

I needed some more bubble solution for the children in the garden.
My husband couldn't find it in its usual place in The Range toy department, asked an assistant and was told, "Sorry, no bubbles, it's Christmas." ?

nipsmum Tue 15-Sept-20 10:52:22

By the time Christmas comes, who knows where we'll be, Covid wise. I've lived for 79 Christmases and expect to see this one in a few months. Missing large celebrations is not going to be the end of the world. We will do what we've always done, " grin and bear it." It won't be the end of the world for my family.

Harris27 Tue 15-Sept-20 11:00:18

As long as we all stay safe IM Not bothered about Christmas. I usually host Boxing Day but really not bothered much rather it be we are all ok for the new year.

EllanVannin Tue 15-Sept-20 11:06:53

Me too Nipsmum, except it'll be my 80th Christmas----no celebrations for me as I'd like to see 81 grin I'll be like Scrooge.

Summerlove Tue 15-Sept-20 11:17:00

maddyone

Cherrytree, completely agree with you.
It was reported that the police raided restaurants that were full of people at Eid.

I’m sure there will be many “illegal” Christmas gatherings as well

EllanVannin Tue 15-Sept-20 11:21:33

I've only seen my GGC on Facetime this year, since December last year ! What a cruel world.

MawB2 Tue 15-Sept-20 11:27:29

annifrance

Succinctly put as ever, M0nica. (Good to see you back again). It really shouldn't bother anyone, whatever religion or not, that Christmas is reduced to limited numbers, just for once. It is what the situation requires.

But overstating as can be the case with generalisations.
Judging by the replies to this thread many people are keeping an open mind about family gatherings at Christmas and several at least have expressed similar views regarding Eid, Hanukkah, Diwali or even Thanksgiving.
So NOT everyone is getting steamed up about Christmas as a religious festival any more than for any other religion.
I dislike being lumped together and told that everybody thinks this or that.
I don’t.

Rosina Tue 15-Sept-20 11:32:22

I feel frustrated when people complain of being 'punished', or 'forced' - that irritating word much favoured by the media - to behave in a way to stop the spread. To get upset or angry about a meal or a special day seems a bit trivial; we can all make a day special with the right attitude when we are able to. Attitude is the only string we have to play, ever, and not just in this current crisis. I do feel like asking one of my acquaintances if she would like to go ahead with a twenty plus Christmas party that she is complaining about, and then reflect in years to come how many relatives she has killed. A funeral took place when this whole thing was just starting - one family lost four members who were present.

maddyone Tue 15-Sept-20 11:33:16

Ha ha, you’re undoubtedly correct Summerlove, undoubtedly. But I thought it important to say, in the light of my being certain that not everyone will stick to the rules at Christmas, that we should ascribe rule breaking to everyone.

Phloembundle Tue 15-Sept-20 11:34:12

I couldn't give a flying fox about Xmas. It is a pigfest, which doesn't seem to involve the birth of Jesus anymore. Oh to spend it in a country where modest celebrations prevail and the meaning of Christmas is remembered.

LuluD Tue 15-Sept-20 11:41:58

I feel grateful that at least we are allowed to be in a six. So much better than having no contact. ?

Aepgirl Tue 15-Sept-20 12:01:55

There must be many families who would love to have six people round their Christmas table. Some places will be empty because of a death caused by coronavirus. Let’s count our blessings, do as we are asked, and stamp out this awful virus. Then we can really celebrate Christmas 2021.

Jillybird Tue 15-Sept-20 12:08:05

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