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Harry laying a wreath.

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Namsnanny Mon 09-Nov-20 10:57:47

I read he asked for a representative to lay a wreath at the Cenotaph, but courtiers refused, as he is no longer a representative of the RF.
It was said the Queen wasn't informed.

I do feel sorry for him. Even though he must have given the choice he made considerable thought beforehand.

Does anyone know if perhaps he made a symbolic 'wreath laying' on line?

Obviously thats about all he could do given Coronavirus and his new life!

NotSpaghetti Mon 09-Nov-20 21:13:26

Thanks Anniebach I did think that was the case.
I'd assdumed that's why Prince Harry couldn't have someone lay a wreath on his behalf.
...I can see that must have been a bit of a wrench though.

Anniebach Mon 09-Nov-20 21:18:50

NotSpaghetti if Harry could lay a wreath because he served
in the armed forces so could every one who had served.

Seems he thought he could do things his way when he chose
to. Doesn’t work that way.

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 21:31:56

What you mean is that those who don’t like the Meghan/harry hate fest are spoiling it for you which seems equally high horsed to me

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 21:32:40

My last comment addressed to lemon grove sorry forgot to say

NotSpaghetti Mon 09-Nov-20 21:32:59

Exactly, that's what I thought.

Anniebach Mon 09-Nov-20 21:48:40

If Harry was allowed to lay a wreath because he had served in
the armed forces why not Simon Weston ?

Callistemon Mon 09-Nov-20 22:00:34

Shrub

Veteran’s Day in the USA is a Federal holiday on 11th Nov.

Thanks Shrub

There will be services of commemoration here on 11th November too, Remembrance Day also known as Armistice Day.

The Archbishop of Westminster proposed that the second Sunday in November should be named Remembrance Sunday in commemoration of both World Wars, a suggestion which was endorsed by the Home Office in January 1946. In June of that year, the prime minister, Clement Attlee, announced in the House of Commons that "the Government felt that this view would commend itself to all quarters of the country. I am glad to say that it has now found general acceptance here and has been approved by The King.

lemongrove Mon 09-Nov-20 22:06:41

Lucca

What you mean is that those who don’t like the Meghan/harry hate fest are spoiling it for you which seems equally high horsed to me

Nope....I couldn’t care less, but think it’s a shame that you and others can’t just state your views about Meghan and Harry doing ( whatever it is they’re doing) without calling other comments ‘nasty’ or anything else.

NotTooOld Mon 09-Nov-20 22:13:55

Ellianne

It is just possible he loves her to bits NotTooold.
I guess only time will tell.

You are right, of course, Elliane. I am becoming horribly cynical. The lockdown is doing me no good at all.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 22:20:29

No No you're not horribly cynical Nottooold, you were just asking questions and trying to fathom it all out. It was when you mentioned his son Archie that I felt I should add he probably loves her to bits for being the mother of his son.
Hang in there, this lockdown won't last forever, neither will the virus.

biba70 Mon 09-Nov-20 22:21:01

merlotgran

Yep. You do it all the time on the political threads.

No comparison whatsoever I am afraid. This is pure speculation on the feelings of a mother towards the partner chosen by one of her sons. The other is about facts as they happen, and the real consequences as seen and reported by experts.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 22:28:58

I've been back over this thread and the only unpleasant words I can find are those used by posters who don't like others criticising Harry and Meghan.
"bashing" "slamming" "digging" are all rather exaggerated words to describe people's observations and opinions on Harry and Meghan's actions.

Lexisgranny Mon 09-Nov-20 22:32:31

Are we to assume that tonight we are witnessing the beginning of a new era, and that those who have condemned some of the critical comments made, will be practicing what they preach, before being derisory about those in the Public Eye whose actions and words do not coincide with their personal opinions. I do hope so, else they might be regarded as somewhat hypocritical.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 22:32:52

Add to that "shameful" "pathetic" "obsessed" and I'm sure there is probably more.

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 22:33:53

Ellianne come on. You’re nitpicking. We are not talking about “words”. It’s the comments and the claims to know what the couple are thinking etc. Anyway I am clearly in a tiny minority so I’ll leave the thread to those who enjoy it.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 22:34:21

I thought that too Lexisgranny.

Lucca Mon 09-Nov-20 22:35:48

One final word to lexisgranny I take it you mean the GN rule is Dont criticise the government but do criticise Meghan and Harry?

suziewoozie Mon 09-Nov-20 22:36:51

Ellianne

I've been back over this thread and the only unpleasant words I can find are those used by posters who don't like others criticising Harry and Meghan.
"bashing" "slamming" "digging" are all rather exaggerated words to describe people's observations and opinions on Harry and Meghan's actions.

You just don’t get it do you? The issue is using Remembrance for yet another hate fest. And then going all ?? about ‘observations and opinions which were the usual mixture of ill informed speculation and fantasy and bile. And you are too dishonest to admit that they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. NB you = the general you who’ve indulged yourselves in this.

merlotgran Mon 09-Nov-20 22:40:59

I get it, sw. The minute anybody posts about Harry and Meghan, in you swoop.

Unless anybody breaks GN guidelines you can't shut people up just because you disagree.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 22:46:26

And you are too dishonest to admit that they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
And you suziewoozue omitted to quote my reply at 13.38 to Lucca where I said I really didn't know what they should have done. I have tried my best to show sympathy for Harry on this occasion as, like others have expressed, he must be feeling very sad.

Lexisgranny Mon 09-Nov-20 22:46:29

Final word back Lucca, not at all, but surely whatever the subject, one cannot condemn others for exercising their right to express a critical opinion whilst exercising ones own right to do the same thing.

Nanawind Mon 09-Nov-20 23:22:31

Were the photos taken yesterday as it shows that it was sunny but the weather in Los Angeles was overcast.
Also I'm sure they need a licence to take photos in that cemetery. Perhaps someone in America could check the records.

Ellianne Mon 09-Nov-20 23:45:37

Crikey Nanawind where did you get that from?

There's no way I'm going to claim any knowledge of meteorology here, but it seems to me, on checking reports, that it was pretty sunny with a few clouds.
Using the airport's data usually gives an accurate report at the time.

Ellianne Tue 10-Nov-20 00:06:19

Just a few clouds apparently.

Summerlove Tue 10-Nov-20 00:24:55

merlotgran

Where has anybody dismissed Harry's work with the Invictus Games as publicity seeking?

When I asked upthread if there were any remembrance services/parades on the same day I was wondering why they didn't just attend a local one rather than set up a photo opportunity.

I find attention seeking behaviour distasteful on this occasion.

America doesn’t do Remembering Sunday.

They do Memorial Day in May. Maybe a thought on 11 november.

Canada does their service on 11 November regardless of the day of the week.

If Harry had done nothing he would have been called out for that too. He was trying to observe his own customs here. For him, that’s photos laying a wreath, just as his family does