Is this allowable do you think ?

Intersting information Peaseblossom Have you a link or source for that? I would be keen to read it.

Isn’t the advice the same as last time? If you drive you might break down and have to call for help or have an accident which would involve more people coming to help you.
We aren’t walking anywhere except the local field with the dog for half an hour and I carry a mask in case I need to help anyone in difficulties. I say ‘we’ but usually it’s just me , DH is warm indoors.

We live 3miles from the sea which has vast open empty beaches and is far safer than our crowded town with very narrow pavements and no public green space. Common sense needs to be used - in England it is still only guidance. I believe Scotland stipulates a certain number of miles from home. Not sure if this is correct but our local police force are allegedly using automatic number plate recognition to identify out of area visitors of which we seem to have many as we are tourist town. When I was out walking this morning from the house I did see a police surveillance van sitting on bridge at entrance to our small town???

People need to get outside for their physical and mental health. That doesn't mean driving miles to get there and going out of your local area. Many areas have a local park or other green space that people can use.
I know it is much nicer to walk in the Peak District or other lovely countryside but for now we need to do as much as we can to stop the spread of this virus.

We have solved the problem by investing in an exercise bike! It only came this week & needed assembly which was exercise enough!
DH and I have done our 20 mins exercise today..in the shed [gin]

Gin.. my Freudian error!

No you should stay local. “ Local means stay in the village, town, or part of the city where you live” according to Government Regulations. Driving 4 miles to a NT property is plainly not on.

It’s in the SAGE reports Pecs. The new variant is very much an unknown so we can’t assume that relative safety that applied to the original Covid will apply now.

I’m good at doing what I’m told. A local walk around Urmston to one of our local parks. A couple of circuits around the frozen pond in the rose garden, then home. We are out just shy of an hour. Yes, it will get boring but (a) it’s exercise in the fresh air and (b) it’s not forever!

Perhaps having stricter restrictions in Spain during the whole of March & April last year when no-one was allowed out for any exercise at all, even without access to a garden, trust me - those long nine weeks in a tiny apartment have taught me that I’m grateful for what we’re allowed here in the UK.
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EllenVannin I'm surprised that you say Nobody should even be leaving the house except for ^chemists or hospital appointments^; you're normally more clued up than that! Guidelines have quite clearly included outdoor excercise as acceptable, even to be encouraged, provided you stay at least 2 metres away from any one else. Our local authority has stated that we can travel anywhere within our local county to walk, run, cycle etc. So I'll be driving 2.5 miles tomorrow morning to meet up with a friend for a walk where social distancing is easy and safe.

Ive got a bike in the garage? And I’ve bonded with the Wii.

H folks, just stay at home for this week. Every little helps when things are so dire. Is it really do much to ask?

My nephews just done 72 hrs on a ward. He wasn’t scheduled for that but he couldn’t leave people who would die if he wasn’t there to intubate them.

No it's not permissable at the moment. All walks/exercise must start and end at home.

I think Jennifer is right, if places are open, we can visit, providing of course we’re not embarking on a long car journey to get there.

I don’t think you should drive to a walk, it’s horrible, I know, I live alone and miss my walking buddies. It’s so serious, just stay at home. When I see people openly flaunting rules, I wish someone would report and fine them, just can’t do it myself, but it’s like a survival war we are fighting and not fair on all those critical care workers.

NanKate

About 4 miles from our home is NT Cliveden which has a massive estate to walk round with an Oriental, Long, Rose Gardens, plus woods to explore.

We have been going regularly for our exercise and the tickets have to be bought online and numbers are regulated. They also have a kiosk for take away coffee and snacks.

We are due to go again this coming week. We now have our coffee and biscuits brought from home in the car on arrival to avoid going to the kiosk.

DH thinks the police could say we have driven too far and are having a mini picnic. If they allowed in only those folks who live nearby, they would have virtually no one visiting as it is in countryside.

It’s a toss up whether we go or not.

My answer is no. You are allowed to travel for exercise not to have a picnic too.

I should think all NT properties are like this. I'm a member and regularly walk at one with my dog. It's a 20 min drive but only 5 miles away (according to Google maps).. Cornish country lanes and a long drive up to the parking area.

The NT properties will only loose out by those who have to pay in the car parks.

1:50 in England now testing positive. Deaths 1325 yesterday.
I'm hoping people will not travel for exercise if there is a green open space within a mile or two.

It's open to interpretation as the Gov.uk site says you can travel to exercise !

The Cornwall and Devon superintendent was on local news last night saying /pleading with people to not to drive to exercise. There is no where in Cornwall where people live, where they only have to open the door and walk for at the most a mile before coming to an open green area.

Thank you peaseblossom will look it out

I think the issue is about safety. Is it safer to drive 4 miles to a NT or similar which has far fewer people than to go to a local park where cyclists, joggers, youngsters and elders are all out mixing together & dodging each other in a smaller area? We should not be flocking to the coast or driving for half an hour or more but a 5-10 minute journey to a more secluded place relieves pressure on localparks for those unable to drive.

To me, staying in your local area means walking distance, not somewhere you drive to.

Having said that, I’m fortunate and live in an area which is never crowded.

The whole point is to encourage folk to stay at home.

I can imagine that once again, some people who never normally exercise are suddenly desperate to go out for a walk!

But then you’re saying it’s ok for everyone to make their own decision about what’s best.

And, like I said, if loads of people decide it’s better to drive to NT property, it won’t have fewer people.
We’ve seen that in the Peak District.

The people who drive are relying on others to stay away and leave the place empty.

Its individuals that make a crowd.

No it's not permissable at the moment. All walks/exercise must start and end at home

Who says HelenLouise? Could you direct me to where this is detailed in any government issued edict? This is directly from YouGov website and was updated on 04.01.2021:

Exercise with your household (or support bubble) or one other person, this should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.

What is the definition of local?

As Avalon quoted above “the village, town or part of city where you live”

BBC news today regarding the 2 women who drove 5 miles to exercise at Foremark Reservoir:

"Derbyshire Police has also been giving fixed penalty notices to people who visit beauty spots at Calke Abbey and Elvaston Castle."
"But later, the force said new guidance from the National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) had "clarified the policing response concerning travel and exercise".

The guidance said: "The Covid regulations which officers enforce and which enables them to issue fixed penalty notices for breaches, do not restrict the distance travelled for exercise."

Nobody should even be leaving the house except for chemists or hospital appointments.

The rules do not say that

If this virus was airborne you'd have no choice but to remain indoors

It IS airborne!!

The two women in Derbyshire have not been charged.
The Police realised they were over zealous.
There is currently no law against driving and walking.