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Being patronising or maybe not ?

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nanna8 Thu 04-Feb-21 10:28:39

I was having a chat with a few friends today about whether they objected to being called ‘dear’, ‘sweetie’, ‘hun’ or such by strangers . Mixed thoughts on this. Personally if anyone calls me ‘hun’ I feel like slapping them but that is just me.

rockgran Thu 04-Feb-21 12:09:22

If they are being friendly I don't see a problem. It seems that most forms of address will offend someone. Even if they get your name right there is the minefield of Mrs/Miss/Ms. I'm happy just to be noticed at all!grin

ginny Thu 04-Feb-21 12:14:13

Not too bothered , it’s more the way it is said.

What does bother me is generalisations like . ‘I don’t object to a sweet old Yorkshireman calling me sweetheart, but not a mouthy know all southerner’.

Sara1954 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:15:22

Agree Rockgran, as long as it’s kindly meant, but sometimes it can be rude and patronising.

Sara1954 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:16:27

Sorry Ginny, I just speak as I find

Lucca Thu 04-Feb-21 12:17:28

I’m not in the least worried a t people using my first name, why would I be ?
Most of the sweetheart, love, pet, hen etc are regional and just fine. I loved the Bristol “my darling, my love” said together!
I don’t mind “guys”, it’s just a more modern thing.

I have to say I find “hun” so twee and sugary, (along with “hubby” and “aw” and “lovely lady”.
Sorry bit of a rant, things are going wrong today!

Luckygirl Thu 04-Feb-21 12:17:34

Not really - depends on the intent - if they say it in a patronising aggressive way, then I might mind; if it is just a figure of speech where they come from then why might I mind?

I do not have the energy to get offended by small things.

Jaxjacky Thu 04-Feb-21 12:17:53

I don’t mind most of them, it depends more on how it’s said, certainly don’t mind you guys. But I’m a allegedly ‘a mouthy know it all southerner’, so take my view with a pinch of salt! ?

NellG Thu 04-Feb-21 12:19:58

Hun is abhorrent. I can just about tolerate the others if I don't feel there is any intent to offend but I have a name and I'm happier if people use it.

I only use such terms of endearment and affection with close family and a few close friends. I would feel I was being disrespectful and patronising if I addressed others in such a way.

Groups are a bit more difficult, guys, chaps, peeps, y'all don't offend me but I'm aware they might niggle others but sometimes life is too short to make a list.

I do feel it's important to listen and learn if people object to being addressed by a generic term - you might not agree, but out of respect I believe it's good to learn that person's preferences.

Wheniwasyourage Thu 04-Feb-21 12:20:57

I think I know what you mean, Sara1954, although I wouldn't put in geographical categories, more those of age. There are some charming elderly men (and women) who can call you 'dear' or 'love' and leave you feeling warm and appreciated, and some mostly young ones who can leave you feeling furious and patronised. It's something you can feel without necessarily being able to put your finger on why, I think.

sodapop Thu 04-Feb-21 12:23:37

I don't mind 'love' being a Yorkshire lass. Not so keen on the others but accept its usually a local thing. I do dislike 'hubby' and 'the wife'

Sara1954 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:24:13

I’m a southerner myself Jaxjacky, and am quite aware that not every southerner is rude, I was actually trying not to be too specific!

timetogo2016 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:26:38

As long as it`s not a horrible word/name anyone can call me whatever they want to.
Dh rarely calls me by my first name and my parents called me babs/sweatheart/my love,sadly they aern`t here anylonger.

eazybee Thu 04-Feb-21 12:32:23

It doesn't bother me much although I don't care for the increasing use of 'hey you guys' . However , I suppose it is the modern equivalent of 'come along, chaps', which strangely infuriates those who like to use the term 'guys'.

Ailidh Thu 04-Feb-21 12:32:27

I loathe it. "Luv" is OK, because up here (Yorkshire) it's a general term of mild endearment. What I really object to is that the older I get, the more women in sort of authority position - shopkeepers, receptionists, nurses - will address me KINDLY as lovey, or my lovely, as though encouraging some feeble old goat. I'm 65. I remember it infuriating my Mum about the same age. She made it to 96, so I'm hoping I've got a lot more years to be irritated!

Sara1954 Thu 04-Feb-21 12:34:38

I like a good gossip to some of my customers during the course of the day, and I think we can all tell the difference between somebody being friendly and chatty, and someone who is being patronising, and sorry, but I do notice regional differences, of course it could just be that I get the worst ones!

cornishpatsy Thu 04-Feb-21 12:51:26

I quite like it, the only one I do not like is ma'am, a neighbour refers to all women that way, I am sure he feels he is being respectful but it really makes me cringe.

EllanVannin Thu 04-Feb-21 13:16:13

Blimey, I don't mind at all. Better than being called anything else as you get older, isn't it ? It's how it's perceived.

Blossoming Thu 04-Feb-21 13:20:36

Ooh, I would like being called ma’am, it would make me feel all grownup and dignified ?

DanniRae Thu 04-Feb-21 15:39:32

ginny and Jaxjacky - On behalf of another 'mouthy Southerner' Thank You!!

Framilode Thu 04-Feb-21 16:13:50

When I was working and dealing with some self important solicitors (male) the phrase they used to use, which drove me mad, was 'My dear'. Grrrr.

LauraNorder Thu 04-Feb-21 16:19:30

Oh Lucca mate, what’s wrong today my love.
Cheer up duck

Lucca Thu 04-Feb-21 17:12:40

Laura my lovely ....an annoying argy bargy with the bank. Some undignified medical camera work.
Being told to cut out caffeine and alcohol , yes my one glass per day must go.
Cheers for asking though petal.

Ro60 Thu 04-Feb-21 17:25:09

Since moving South I love the phrase 'My lovely'

tidyskatemum Thu 04-Feb-21 17:25:41

I have a male cousin in Yorkshire who greets everyone with ‘Ay up Cock!’ Cringe.....

Suki70 Thu 04-Feb-21 18:33:24

In a telephone consultation yesterday a young male GP twice called me "my love" . I was surprised but found it rather amusing.