Illegal migrants’ amnesty vaccine.

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So you reported me.

I still do not think I’ve called a group of people ‘illegals’.
Pleural?

I think I will have said they are illegal. Not the same. As in ‘they are illegal being here’.

Honestly, I agree with Alegrias this nit picking is beyond ridiculous. It stymies sensible debate.

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Now that’s digging a deeper hole sw
How on earth could you know others had reported me? It would be between themselves and GNHQ only.
Unless of course there were p.m’s flying around which I know many posters call that behaviour out for being ‘cliquey’.

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At least now you know who reported you Urmstongran lol. The tell tail tits, the continually offended if it doesn't suit their own agenda, trying to shut down free speech and shut down a thread. How sad. Obviously not able to argue their own corner.

Oh please. That really doesn't help. I do believe it's what the Moderators ask us to do and we really aren't in the playground now.

No one, that I have seen, is asking that free speach is limited. Just insulting and misleading name calling.

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Now that’s digging a deeper hole sw
How on earth could you know others had reported me? It would be between themselves and GNHQ only.
Unless of course there were p.m’s flying around which I know many posters call that behaviour out for being ‘cliquey’.

Well this post says all anyone would need to know about pms flying around and how your mind seems to work. Why not stop digging that hole you’re in and read again what HQ posted ? Here it is to help you
‘We also agree with those who have expressed concern re grouping people together as 'illegals' which has very negative and derogatory connotations so we'd ask that you not use phrase or similar please.’

Isn’t ‘those’ plural and in addition the post makes it clear why several posts were deleted for using the word ‘illegals’

It IS an important topic to discuss.
I can’t imagine any other country having a relatively high percentage of their population ensconced in the country illegally. The fact that we are in the middle of a pandemic with vaccinations being the only way out, makes it an even more important problem.

But no, don’t let’s discuss what can be done. Let’s pussyfoot around discussing which term is permitted which describes their illegal presence here shall we?

I didn't report anyone as you seem to infer Firecracker - mine being the only other post you could be refering to - but I will if you continue. That is what we are told to do when people are picking a fight.

This is far from adult behaviour and I think I have better things to do.

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So what are your thoughts on an amnesty then? It would mean we did know where many of the people are and they could be protected. I might also mean the criminals involved could be brought to justice.

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They are human beings and by having the vaccine it will protect the general population anyway which is what we are trying to achieve aren't we?

I find it sad people can't see past their own life. It petrifies me that whole families are stuck in places like Yarl's Wood (and presumably it would be best to vaccinate inside a 'facility') what on earth happens in there

Moving on. Until I hear back from GNHQ.

I agree with you PippaZ. It’s time the government got to grips with this situation. A pandemic is scary enough without an added layer of concern regarding people who are, at present, not even being offered a vaccination.

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The amnesty is a good idea. I’m just not certain people will trust the government not to scrutinise the necessary data.

Would it work if perhaps undocumented people attended a hub on a ‘drop in’ basis for their jab? Even one shot giving a decent level of immunity would be preferable to no jab at all.

I doubt all the illegal immigrants will get the vaccine.

What concerns me is that they're probably working cash in hand, how much tax are we missing out on?

From the virus point of view, if they don't get the vaccine how will that impact on herd immunity?

Personally I would love to see a sincere amnesty for all. We would all benefit from a society where everyone here could get access to healthcare, to education and could work and pay tax.
The few who are here for criminal reasons, such as slavery, could then be flushed out.
I don’t want to continue to derail an otherwise interesting discussion but I did read this thread earlier and would have been very surprised, in fact shocked if Urms had said ‘illegals’. It’s just not her style. I’m sure I’d have noticed. Perhaps someone else used it and Urms quoted to reply. I hope the matter gets cleared up as she is obviously upset by the accusation.

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Sorry Urms crossed post. You’re maturely moving on.

*Personally I would love to see a sincere amnesty for all. We would all benefit from a society where everyone here could get access to healthcare, to education and could work and pay tax.
The few who are here for criminal reasons, such as slavery, could then be flushed out*

Quite!

Sorry Laura she did. and thanks for implying I am a liar. Why did you do that? Others criticised the use of the word and others used it clearly approvingly. After I reported it GN deleted the posts that used it.

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