What did Prince Phillip mean to you?

Anniebach ; sadly heard that Phillips mother had a breakdown and was admitted to a mental institution and later became a nun.

There are gaps after that but it is said that she also died in Windsor Castle and is buried in the family vaults where the chapel is that Phillip is going for his funeral.

Yes Phillips mother was born in Windsor Castle and when he was 8 years old she disappeared.

Yes, and grief is an emotional pain , this is what I have been trying to explain , thank you JaneJudge

BlueSky
Grief does not recognise wealth.

Philip was born into a life of privilege that is not his fault it is just fact.
In no way am I saying he had it easy in his informative years,
and life gave him some hefty blows.
His mother however was born in Windsor Castle and he was of Royal blood he had considerably better opportunities in this life than many others.

You’ve got it JaneJudge! The emotional pain IS the same!

A hard act to follow is how I observed Elizabeth & Philip
and consider a privilege to have experienced.

Well grief is more difficult if you can't afford a burial or cremation and it is left to your local authority to sort out.

Grief is more difficult if you are going to have to move house because your specially adapted bungalow needs to go to someone else who needs it more than you do now.

Grief is more difficult if you have 4 weeks to pack up your belongings to go into a flat organised by the local authority that may not be in your current area.

Grief is more difficult when that means leaving your existing family behind.

Grief is more difficult when you have no money to move your belongings.

Grief is more difficult if your welfare payments have halved.

Grief is more difficult if you were your late partners carer and below 66 and have to go out and find a full time job.

Grief is more difficult if your own health has suffered because you were a carer.

Honestly, the list is endless. Money gives you choice and it does cushion the blow of you being forced into a succession of other life changing events.

The emotional pain IS the same though. I don't think that can be argued.

Having enough money to do the best for a loved one once they have died is connected to grief. Grief is approximately the same for rich and poor, it is the emotion that goes with the loss and period of time that the feelings of that loss can be addressed.
Someone who is poorer may want to get the best of everything for the funeral but being sensible about funeral costs, and then headstone if it has been a burial can make the grief harder to bear.
If a richer person has to do the funeral much of the financial burden is lessened and there is no added discomfort of not providing the best that one can do, there is a huge difference.

Anniebach

suziewoozie if lack of money makes grief worse surely it follows - money makes grief easier and I still say this is not so.

I’ve nothing further to add - we’re just going round in circles.

suziewoozie if lack of money makes grief worse surely it follows - money makes grief easier and I still say this is not so.

I feel sympathy for the Queen, but was never a huge fan of Philip with his rude remarks, which didn’t exactly endear him to the colonies. He was a man of his time I guess. I was a royalist but reading about the Queen’s Consent and her lobbying for exceptions to suit herself and hoard wealth and the hijinks with Prince Andrew, I’d prefer if she was the last English monarch. I read an article on the royal family’s ‘work’, which averages out to only 4 months full time work a year. As I live and breathe. And all of it just events and shaking hands. Nice if you can get it.
I will be sad when the Queen dies however.

I tried to explain earlier how not having enough money can leave one feeling that one has not done ones best for the person that has died, it was a personal observation, based on experience, I do not think it was unpleasant or disrespectful.

No, not a diversion, I agree. But pretending posters are saying something they are not, is a way of pointing fingers and making the other poster out to be the bad guy. I think its unpleasant.

It was Espee’s comment that prompted my reaction Alegrias1. Having money does not make grief easier, nor does ‘grieving in comfort’. I don’t think it is a distraction from the thread either, it’s a fundamental issue.

I don't see where anybody has said grief in and of itself is lessened if you are well off, but of course diverting the conversation to suggest that has been said is a good way of discrediting other posters.

But life after widowhood for a rich person in their comfortable surroundings with their loyal staff is going to be different than it is for a person trying to live on the state pension in a high rise flat with no visitors or family to look after them. To suggest otherwise is just wrong.

Suzie let’s say the Queen can grieve in comfort, as the old saying goes.

You will have a harder time if you’re financially insecure, or feeling guilty, or whatever your personal circumstances of course, but grief for a loved one is overwhelming for everybody regardless of every other factor, and being wealthy does not diminish any aspect of your grief. The other elements are different emotions, not part of the essential grief itself in my opinion.

Casdon

Badly done to suggest that it is in some way easier for rich people to bear grief. Your grief is based on your love for the person who has died, not on material things or circumstances. Guilt, anger, physical discomfort and other factors will make you feel terrible of course, but I don’t think they are part of the grief itself, nothing can make that easier for anybody who has loved and lost.

I’m honestly not saying it’s easier if you’re financially secure - I’m saying it could well be harder if you’ve got money worries. I’m not sure how emotionally your grief and worrying about the bills are not intertwined.

We’ll said Casdon my sentiments exactly!

Absolutely nothing!

Badly done to suggest that it is in some way easier for rich people to bear grief. Your grief is based on your love for the person who has died, not on material things or circumstances. Guilt, anger, physical discomfort and other factors will make you feel terrible of course, but I don’t think they are part of the grief itself, nothing can make that easier for anybody who has loved and lost.

Anniebach

suziewoozie grief is grief , and no pound sign makes the pain easier.

You say I speak from my experience and cannot be assumed to be true of everyone, same can be said of someone of wealth,

You still don’t seem to appreciate the difference between making worse as opposed to making easier.

suziewoozie grief is grief , and no pound sign makes the pain easier.

You say I speak from my experience and cannot be assumed to be true of everyone, same can be said of someone of wealth,

So sorry Megs36* ?