What did Prince Phillip mean to you?

Anniebach

Why do some believe money eases grief, it does not , sitting in
luxurious home or in a one bedroomed flat with only an electric fire for warmth - the pain of grief is the same.

Lack of money makes grief worse in so many situations.

Annebach - you never spoke a truer word.

A man that I underestimated.

Thank you, sir, for letting me into the grounds of Sandringham very early one morning.
I think it must have irritated his protection unit enormously ?
He was, probably, a nightmare to manage!

No *Suziewoozie, money or lack of money does not make grief
easier or harder to bear .

Keeping to the royals, why didn’t wealth save Katherine Kent from a breakdown when she lost her baby.

Very true Annie
I’m a republican but can see that the Queen is an old woman,
A bit older than most of us perhaps, that has been in a very long marriage ( also a bit like many of us) and will feel as we would feel about the death of our husband, expected or not, after an illness.The fact that she is the Queen/ wealthy does nothing to help.We can all remember very well the life we have had with our lovely husbands, if we have had a happy marriage, and remember the times when we were young together, had children, then into middle age, and now older age.Having that one person, close to you and always being there for you ....then they are not here, is hard to bear for anyone.Many GNers have had to face that already and will know exactly how the Queen feels.
Have a little humanity with your posts, sooziewoozie and anyone else posting along the same lines.

Pah. Couldn't give a toss about him and I deplore the saccharine, wall-to-wall coverage about him. One less parasite IMO but I know others would disagree!
He was a racist and bred at least one criminal - that is, if he was the father....

In my family we say that money doesn’t buy you happiness, but at least you can be miserable in comfort.

He was a racist. His “outspoken” attitude and “irascible” nature wouldn’t be tolerated, if he were your boss or next door neighbour.

The “outpouring of grief” is media made.

He was married to the Queen, lived a long and privileged life and was very, very lucky to have been set up with her, by Mountbatten.

I am not a Royalist, as you can see. I think it obscene in 2021 when we still have such poverty/homelessness/need that we are supporting them to the extent we are. I’d like to see the monarchy scaled right back.

And now... a bloody yacht!

Stacey Doesn't See the Point of the Royal Family | Loose Women
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbpz-ts74ec

Of course Royalty – and this family in particular – is saturated in blood sports. It’s in the DNA of their “Highland Retreat”, their Empire and their entire worldview. If colonialism is at the heart of the British condition – then domination of nature – extractivism and exploitation are central to this. Sandringham is like a Taxidermy tribute to the British Empire’s contribution to species-loss.

I am a republican.

Grandma70s

In my family we say that money doesn’t buy you happiness, but at least you can be miserable in comfort.

Exactly.

I don’t understand how some can measure another’s grief , the
Queen’s husband has died, they were married for many years, like all women after a long marriage there must be a feeling of
such loss , perhaps thoughts of ‘how will I cope, he has always been there for me.

I was widowed after 8 years of marriage, my thoughts , how will I cope I thought he would always be there for me.

Stop judging people’s grief please,

What Prince Phillip means to me is that he is even now doing a grand job at highlighting a society that allows an accident of birth and marrying into the right family to set you up for life.

I'm appreciate that he had a difficult childhood and a distinguished war record, and that he was a loyal consort to the Queen, in terms of fulfilling the vows he made to her at her coronation. He's had a lot to deal with in his family and the trials and tribulations they've faced in the last few decades. Like many of us.

But he's got a lot back. He's had a life of privilege and luxury, and has never had to worry about where the next meal was coming from, or where to find 50p for the meter. I'm sure he baulked at first at walking two steps behind the queen and all that entailed, but c'est la vie. He knew what was coming when they agreed to marry. He was a Prince, after all.

BTW I don't think he was a racist, I think he said racist things. That's different. I deplore his treatment of animals, particularly that tiger, but that's what the life of the privileged was like 60 years ago. We should be acknowledging his passing as the UK's longest serving Consort, but not deifying the man.

Anniebach I’m not judging the grief of people who knew him, but the idea that we’re in mourning as a nation is preposterous.

Dog fighting was enjoyed by many , sadly it still is by some

I think that’s a pretty fair summing up Algerias if a tad generous on some points. His childhood was no more difficult than for many others in the war snd being well connected ( through birth and family marriages) meant he was given entree very quickly to the right circles ( including the RF) and a select education. Also not sure how I feel about being a racist: saying racist things. Ducks and all that.

AmberSpyglass I am not mourning either, I spoke against the
judging of grief suffered by the wealth of the bereaved.

The country is not in mourning, the country was not in mourning when Diana died, yet we had people crying ‘where is the queen’ and the press ‘your country needs you ma’am’

Rubbish , grief is personal to those who loved the deceased person not to the country.

Anniebach

Why do some believe money eases grief, it does not , sitting in
luxurious home or in a one bedroomed flat with only an electric fire for warmth - the pain of grief is the same.

You are so right Annie...

suziewoozie you too judging grief by accident of birth,
you think Phillip having wealthy relatives ‘who took him in’ eased the pain of a 8 year old whose mother was seriously mentally ill and father abandoned him.

Why are some so blinded by money .

But privilege doesn’t mean everything is easy - it just means easier. And when someone is at the top of the social hierarchy then it is harder, frankly, to find sympathy for them.

But, much like misogyny oppresses men as well as women, extreme wealth seems like it has a corrosive effect on the people it touches.

We could I suppose speculate on what would have happened to that 8 year old boy without his connections He might have been one of those sent to Australia and abused. He might have been in an orphanage in this country and beaten. He might have been sent out aged 14 to make his own way in the world. If we are going to mourn let's mourn all those children who didn't get his chances. He had a long and privileged life. Many of them didn't.

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I have empathy for his family and appreciate the good things he did like the DofE scheme but on a personal level he meant nothing to me, how could he?

Anniebach

suziewoozie you too judging grief by accident of birth,
you think Phillip having wealthy relatives ‘who took him in’ eased the pain of a 8 year old whose mother was seriously mentally ill and father abandoned him.

Why are some so blinded by money .

Its got nothing to do with money Annie. Its to do with privilege. I understand that Phillips family were very hard up indeed when they were exiled from Greece. But he didn't end up in an orphanage for unwanted children, then in a dead-end job with no prospects, which is what could well have happened if he hadn't been a Prince of Greece. He ended up at a select school in the highlands and being introduced to an eligible Princess at the age of 19.

The life he ended up having would have been very different if he hadn't been the g-g-grandson of Queen Victoria. Money or not, he was privileged.

That doesn't make him any less sad when he was eight, but it certainly made a difference after.

cross post Trisher, I think we're saying the same thing.

Anniebach

suziewoozie you too judging grief by accident of birth,
you think Phillip having wealthy relatives ‘who took him in’ eased the pain of a 8 year old whose mother was seriously mentally ill and father abandoned him.

Why are some so blinded by money .

See trishers post. And at least he want Jewish. And all the little 8 year olds in refugee camps atm.