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How the Royal Family might change with Charles (then William) as Monarch?

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ixion Wed 14-Apr-21 13:49:49

As many here will, hopefully, live to experience the reign of Charles and possibly even William, how do you see the Monarchy and the Royal Family changing, adapting, innovating?
Do you envisage much change?

Alegrias1 Thu 15-Apr-21 17:28:33

Oh thanks Lemon. I didn't know that hmm...

But since we were being light hearted, I was making a joke that after independence, should that blessed day ever come, the Queen might want to be more associated with the Scots side of her family than the other side. You know, a joke?

We're not going to get into that English vs British debate again are we? Remember Jean from LBC. shock

lemongrove Thu 15-Apr-21 17:30:51

ixion

Just how much would Prince Charles and, increasingly perhaps, Prince William have to 'give up' in an attempt to modernise the Monarchy?
How 'like us' would we like them to become?

Interesting thought ixion ?
I think we would all have differing views on that, and a few on GN would like to see them queuing up at the chippy and waiting for a bus I expect.?
I would like to see modernisation from them to include only
Money from the public purse going to the immediate RF, as in
Charles and Camilla and William and family.Nobody else.
Two ‘great houses’ to be kept, one Buckingham Palace and then either Sandringham or Balmoral, any others to be transferred to the NT or similar, and preserved for visitors.
That would be a start.

jacqrose Thu 15-Apr-21 17:32:46

All the titles and honours they award themselves, it's so ridiculous. The monarchy is unlikely to change in any meaningful way until the media in this country becomes more independent and that seems unlikely too. So whether it's Charles or William doesn't matter. It suits those in power, the government and media, to keep the status quo. And they call this democracy smile

Alegrias1 Thu 15-Apr-21 17:34:30

William was well known at the local chippy when he went to Uni in St A. It was up the road from my friend's house. I believe McD was favoured as well.

lemongrove Thu 15-Apr-21 17:34:33

No Aleg I don’t remember Jean. However your joke fell flat.
I hope the Scottish people don’t vote for independence, but if they do I expect we shall muddle on without them somehow.

Alegrias1 Thu 15-Apr-21 17:37:30

Never mind Lemon, many of us will remember Jean. Maybe even the same set of people who can recognise humour when they read it.

lemongrove Thu 15-Apr-21 17:40:58

I can and do recognise humour regularly when I meet it Alegrias but haven’t met it in your posts yet.
I expect we shall both survive the loss.?

Alegrias1 Thu 15-Apr-21 17:44:13

Slinks off to lick her wounds

Or, not.

I swear, some days it's like primary school.

lemongrove Thu 15-Apr-21 17:46:00

jacqrose ...they call it democracy because it happens to be one.
If the monarchy does streamline itself pretty soon, then there will be no call to be a Republic. If they are canny then they will
Make many changes.

jacqrose Thu 15-Apr-21 17:57:25

lemon grove in a democracy the people get to vote on who represents them. In a democracy the laws made apply to everyone. The head of state should not be exempt. In a democracy the head of state shouldn't be able to decide whether they slim down or keep the "firm" as is.

JaneJudge Thu 15-Apr-21 18:10:31

I think they should self fund - it is just ridiculous they don't, they produce enough to self support?

William and Catherine are of my generation and many of us have struggled to support our families or even buy a house (let alone the misery of private rentals)

lemongrove Thu 15-Apr-21 18:10:48

We do vote as to who represents us politically.The Monarchy have no powers and cannot get politically involved.
As to money ( needed to maintain them) Parliament awarded them the amount, but the RF could choose to need less by slimming down if they wished to.

jacqrose Thu 15-Apr-21 18:16:37

The queen and Charles do get involved and use their influence behind the scenes, as has been reported widely.

lemongrove Thu 15-Apr-21 18:23:05

Lots of things are ‘reported widely’ but it doesn’t make them true.
What things do you suspect the Queen has been meddling in?
When Charles was younger ( maybe still ) he was very interested in the natural world and anything eco.Also in architecture.

Grany Thu 15-Apr-21 18:38:24

jacqrose

All the titles and honours they award themselves, it's so ridiculous. The monarchy is unlikely to change in any meaningful way until the media in this country becomes more independent and that seems unlikely too. So whether it's Charles or William doesn't matter. It suits those in power, the government and media, to keep the status quo. And they call this democracy smile

Agree Well Said

Anniebach Thu 15-Apr-21 18:40:20

Am curious, what do those who want the royals slimmed down
mean ?

Stop Anne, Edward and Sophie from carrying out royal duties ?
or something more drastic. !

jacqrose Thu 15-Apr-21 18:42:46

Just because some don't want to believe the reports it doesn't make them false.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_spider_memos

Anniebach Thu 15-Apr-21 18:42:59

If the queen and Charles used their influence behind the scenes how is this widely known ? Behind the scene means in
secret

jacqrose Thu 15-Apr-21 18:51:57

Anniebach good try, you have made me smile. I.think you know the answer to your question.

Anniebach Thu 15-Apr-21 18:55:06

No I don’t know jacqrose if I did I wouldn’t have asked

ixion Thu 15-Apr-21 19:05:14

lemongrove

ixion

Just how much would Prince Charles and, increasingly perhaps, Prince William have to 'give up' in an attempt to modernise the Monarchy?
How 'like us' would we like them to become?

Interesting thought ixion ?
I think we would all have differing views on that, and a few on GN would like to see them queuing up at the chippy and waiting for a bus I expect.?
I would like to see modernisation from them to include only
Money from the public purse going to the immediate RF, as in
Charles and Camilla and William and family.Nobody else.
Two ‘great houses’ to be kept, one Buckingham Palace and then either Sandringham or Balmoral, any others to be transferred to the NT or similar, and preserved for visitors.
That would be a start.

Sheltered housing lemon??

Anniebach Thu 15-Apr-21 19:08:30

lemon the queen owns Sandringham and Balmoral ?

jacqrose Thu 15-Apr-21 19:25:14

Anniebach moles leak to newspapers. It was ever thus.

Grany Thu 15-Apr-21 19:52:59

No one is seriously talking about Britain adopting a US-style constitution. Republic proposes a parliamentary constitution, basically what we have now but made democratic top to bottom.

A government with too much power

A parliamentary system should put parliament at the centre, accountable only to the voters. In the UK parliament is weak in the face of government power, and that's largely because of the Crown and the monarchy.

The Crown gives the government huge powers to take decisions without parliament or to control parliamentary business, whether that's deciding when parliament will be running or having the power to ensure proposed laws they disagree with have little chance of getting passed.

lemongrove Thu 15-Apr-21 20:29:19

Anniebach

lemon the queen owns Sandringham and Balmoral ?

Well ?it would be a good move ( say, on William’s part in the future) if he opted to give one of them to the NT to manage so that visitors could see all the rooms.The money would then be put to good use by them for so many houses and their upkeep for the nation.