How very dare country folk drive their horse boxes and tractors on country roads.....
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Professor Jason Arday - plagiarism etc
I need advice for a mutually messy situation
Usually we see/hear people complaining about others who drive too fast. Quite rightly so as driving too fast leads to accidents and endangers other road users. However, equally as dangerous are those who drive too slowly because they cause tail backs and confusion.
Today we followed a man out of a Morrisons car park. All the time he was in the car park he drove at 5mph....even when we were on the wide road leaving the car park. This road leads to a roundabout with three roads leading off. He took the roundabout at 5mph and joined a busy main road. The speed is 40mph, then 50mph and then 60mph within a relative short distance. As he turned onto the road he started to speed up and we thought, fair enough he was just slow on the car park and leaving the store. But no. He drove at 20mph. It's impossible to overtake on this road because it's so busy in both directions all the time. Gradually his speed increased so that in the end we were doing 30mph in a 60mph zone. The road in front of him was clear but the traffic jam behind us just got longer and longer. Fortunately after 3 miles we turned off but that road is the only road to the nearest city or the motorway so anyone going further was stuck behind him. We were getting wound up by his poor driving. Heaven knows what people further back were thinking as they wouldn't know what was causing the hold up.
How very dare country folk drive their horse boxes and tractors on country roads.....
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On country roads it’s the small horse boxes that should pull in and let people pass and occasional tractors as neither can go very fast
kevincharley
Maybe his car had developed an issue and he was on his way to the garage.
Or maybe you were the reason... Maybe he felt you were driving too close and trying to force him to go faster.
Once you turned off he probably speeded up.
We didn't tail gate him. We stayed a safe distance behind him and we can see the main road when we turn off. He didn't speed up but the tailback was long.
My pet hate is drivers who slow right down at the bottom of a slipway and try to join a dual carriageway at slow speed absolute nightmare and dangerous
It's very difficult for older people to lose their independence. Don't forget some councils are removing the free bus pass for senior citizens just to save money. London is taking away the free bus pass and I am sure many other boroughs will follow suit so if people do not have a car and no free bus pass does that mean they are confined to the house.
Sarnia
Although I am in my 70's I think everyone intending to drive once they reach 70 should sit a small driving test. It wouldn't have to be qualified examiners all time. I think members with credentials from Advanced Driving schools are permitted to sit as passengers to observe driving skills.
I have been saying this for years and it should be at each renewal.
I think we should all have some sort of test - perhaps the reactions/hazards test that people have to take before the practical test these days. The first one should be taken at seventy, the second at seventy-five and the third at eighty. After this it should be taken annually. It should be two strikes and you’re out. If this was implemented, it would be a fairer way of assessing driving ability and would apply to everyone. It is reactions that often seem to deteriorate the most as people get older and this is potentially very dangerous.
I cannot agree that slow drivers are necessarily less dangerous than speeding drivers as the frustration they cause can provoke drivers behind them to take unnecessary risks.
18 months ago (pre-Covid) we took my stepfather over to visit his brother in Edgbaston, Birmingham. The 4 of us were going out for a mid week lunch. The SF’s brother drove us to the restaurant in his very comfortable car. He will be 95y next month!
He drove well, went with the flow of traffic and I felt quite safe. Apparently he is still driving. We hope to visit this summer. I’m sure he will drive us to lunch again.
This is why I always have my dash- cam and rear camera on , provides all the evidence you need .
GraceQuirrel
I passed my test over 50 years ago. I still drive at 70 mph on the motorway and still drive in Europe.
My OH ( the same) plus he still races at Santapod. We also drive a large motohome towing a Smart car, all over Europe and beyond.
Probably as blind as a bat and refusing to give up his licence. He will when he kills someone. Why are they the ones who always think they are super safe crawling around yet have either never taken a test or did so 50 years ago!
I was taught by my driving instructor to speed up when we left the 30mph limit. He told me I would fail my test if I didn’t. My Mother-in-law was pulled over by the police for driving too slowly.
But I worry more about drivers who go too fast, who brake too late, who don’t signal, who overtake dangerously.
As for older drivers, yes, a specific retest would not hurt. If not at 70, then 75 , 80, then every two years. I know we all age at different rates but most of us restrict ourselves to roads we know. I would not drive in a strange city, but am happy to drive to places I know, including on motorways. My least favourite place is a supermarket car park!
Sorry Esspee: I was replying to henetha. I agree with your husband. Although I’m a nervous driver myself when DH is driving we usually spot a situation like that at the same time and take evasive action.
Esspee
We are both in our 70s. My OH has driven throughout the world and he always categorises bad drivers by guessing "what their problem is." It is scary the way he is right 90% of the time. I try to make him realise it is no longer politically correct to class people according to age, race, gender or nationality etc. but his accuracy allows him to insist he is being factual.
It is infuriating when we overtake to avoid the danger of being behind the poor driver to see that he was 100% correct with his assessment.
By the same token does he not take evasive action if he sees someone driving towards him overtaking other cars on single lane roads? Imo a good driver is someone who thinks they’re probably a good driver themselves but are driving on roads where everyone else is capable of doing something stupid and dangerous. I’d assume that most fast drivers think they’re brilliant drivers and slow drivers think they might not be. I agree that it’s important when following some drivers, to take evasive action and either get past them as quickly as possible or pull back and get more distance away from them when instinct tells you they’re likely to do something dangerous.
This is a red rag to a bull to me. I'm usually a very mild person, but I can feel my blood pressure rising when I get stuck behind a slow driver. They make me SO cross. I'm trying to learn to control it.
Whilst in America I was told that, if you have more than 5 cars behind you, you must pull off and let them pass. "Pull-offs" are provided on a lot of the roads.
It is as much a driving offence to drive too slowly as it is to drive too fast
Just thinking. If the speed limit is 30 ie that’s the maximum. What speed then considered too slow? If there is nothing else on the road.
Or if on the motorway without other traffic in your lane.
There used to be a driving offence called ‘dawdling’. I suspect it doesn’t exist any more!
Off topic, but there is no slow and fast lanes on a motorway.
My friend's mum is in the early stages of dementia and had her licence renewed a few months ago.
We are both in our 70s. My OH has driven throughout the world and he always categorises bad drivers by guessing "what their problem is." It is scary the way he is right 90% of the time. I try to make him realise it is no longer politically correct to class people according to age, race, gender or nationality etc. but his accuracy allows him to insist he is being factual.
It is infuriating when we overtake to avoid the danger of being behind the poor driver to see that he was 100% correct with his assessment.
It’s an offence to drive too slowly if it’s likely to cause an issue on the road.
Going off at a tangent here but I was surprised to read on a Facebook page that in some states of America cars don’t have to have a yearly check. People were complaining bout how much they cost and how they wished they lived in a state where it wasn’t necessary. Thinking about that what happens if people drive from one state to another where checks are needed? And how does it affect insurance?
I drive at the recommended speed, my Grandchildren think I drive too slowly they are teenagers who I dont think drive according to the speed limit.If I see a few cars behind me instead of being stresed and forced into a speed I am not comfortable with, I pull to one side and let everyone who is in a hurry pass safely.
I appreciate the concern that drivers should be fit for the task, and concern about health issues.
But my takeaway is that when actually driving we have to avoid feeling annoyed.
I recall a racing driver maybe Stirling Moss talking about public highway driving and making the point about our own driving attitudes. He saw ‘bad’ driving as just another obstacle on the road, and focused on his own driving not others’. Personally I find the hares outnumber the tortoises.
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