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Newatthis Mon 28-Jun-21 12:17:30

Hi, I'm not sure if any of you will understand this as I expect, as we are on this forum, that we all have children. However, We (a group of friends) have known a friend in our group for our adult life. She was always so much fun and didn't have children out of choice but had a fantastic life of parties, travel and of course more money than most of us as she didn't have childcare costs. Of course she always wanted to offer advice (sometime very critical!) on our parenting skills but that's another story! Since we have all become grandparents , over the last ten years or so, she has become very resentful to the point that she no longer asks us how our our children/grandchildren are. We are not the type of people who constantly talk about our families when we get together so it's not as if she is bored to death of listening to us. We are always interested in her life (although she doesn't party anymore) and supportive of each other. Do any of you feel that she now has regrets about not having children? Once again it was out of choice for her, no medical problem.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sat 03-Jul-21 08:42:30

I would only mention my granddaughter to friends with their own grandchildren. A couple of friends don’t have and don’t expect to have grandchildren. One never mentions the subject, the other is always really interested and asks what she is getting up to. My neighbour only has the one grandchild like me, and we love exchanging stories.

wildswan16 Sat 03-Jul-21 08:49:39

Maybe it is more about the fact that her life has now changed and she feels she has nothing to contribute to the group. She doesn't have interesting grandchildren to tell you about, she doesn't have exciting parties to discuss, she hasn't been to any exotic travel locations ... etc.

Perhaps her life has changed more drastically than you and your other friends have experienced. This is what she is regretting.

Judy54 Sat 03-Jul-21 17:28:21

Hello Newatthis you know your friend better than we do so no idea if she has regrets about not having children. We do not have children and have friends who also do not have children as well as friends with children and grandchildren. When we get together we talk about the interests we share together (usually involving food and wine) our hobbies, holidays etc. rather than their offspring. I have no idea if my friends without children are childless by choice or were unable to have them, it is not something we have ever discussed in all the years we have known each other, we just accept each other the way we are and yes we still have fun!

Greeneyedgirl Sat 03-Jul-21 17:45:35

It’s kind of a little bit sad if we are defined by whether we have GC or C. I don’t see it has any bearing on long standing friendships, unless personal interests are very narrow.

M0nica Sat 03-Jul-21 18:47:22

I have children and grandchildren, yet for some reason, all my closest friends have been and are single and childless, some by choice, some not. My own daughter decided very young that she neither wanted children nor any kind of live-in relationship.

She is nearly 50 and has never had any regrets. She loves and enjoys the company of her nephew and niece.

TrendyNannie6 Sat 03-Jul-21 20:31:02

I don’t know the friend so I’ve no idea how she feels, maybe she’s just not interested

lemsip Sat 03-Jul-21 20:45:57

Newatthis How awful that you and your group of friends see fit to discuss this persons business between yourselves and then on here. What sort of friends are you?

Savvy Sat 03-Jul-21 20:49:24

It could be that you have just grown apart. I do find that over time my circle of friends changes. Maybe she just doesn't think you have very much in common anymore.

Not every woman who doesn't have children regrets it. I think that sometimes society only values women who have reproduced and that somehow you have failed as a woman if you don't have kids, or, as has been said to me in the past, there's something wrong with you if you don't have, or want children.

Savvy Sat 03-Jul-21 20:51:03

* hit post before I'd finished, I meant to add;

Children aren't for everyone.

Judy54 Sun 04-Jul-21 16:39:53

Well said*Greeneyedgirl*. We should not be defined by whether we have children or not but by who we are as a person and what we contribute to and receive from friendships.