Royal Thread the Second- Tiaras Optional! ?

More marriages have broken down in recent years. Previously women just put up with being unhappy, but now they don’t, quite rightly, whether they are in the royal family or any other family. The break down of marriages in the royal family is simply a reflection of the rest of society.

trisher

maddyone I assume you weren't living in your-laws house or working for them or living in a new country when you had your episodes, so it's hardly fair to compare is it?
I'm sorry about your episodes but it doesn't qualify you to condemn someone else. Is it not only possible but highly probable moving from being an independent woman to a restricted royal would impact on someone?

I agree with this trisher.

Is it not only possible but highly probable moving from being an independent woman to a restricted royal would impact on someone?
I agree*trisher*, so were Harry's brother's comments to him about giving it a bit longer before jumping in not insightful? Instead of which he has trashed even those in public.

But why didn't Harry, who was having therapy himself (he said), get her the help she said she needed?

trisher Anne divorced.

Kate accompanies William at public events, she also ‘does her own thing’,

Fergie ? I suppose many families wouldn’t be thrilled with a married member of the family having her toes sucked whilst her children watched.

Diana like Kate did her own thing, AIDS charity , heart surgery,

Katharine Kent manned the phone for the Samaritans, nothing to do with her husband’s work. She also delivered ‘meals on wheels’ during a strike.

Megan had her own interests,writing on bananas to abused women, writing a cookery book.

So it’s rubbish to say ‘they behave in the same way’.

Sparklefizz

But why didn't Harry, who was having therapy himself (he said), get her the help she said she needed?

I don’t understand this either. Harry has accessed help for mental health difficulties himself. I do not believe that the RF would have refused help, therefore I think this to be another hit at the RF, and it suggests untruth, which is why, despite having suffered depression myself, I take this claim with a pinch of salt. However, I can understand that the move to a different country, getting married and pregnant quickly, being in the public eye even if she didn’t feel like it (in other words duty) and living in a very different culture, might lead to difficulties in adjustment.

I agree maddy. Meghan said she "went to HR" for help.
Who on earth would do that? Did Harry go to HR for his own help? I very much doubt it. As Meghan had accessed frequent acupuncture in the UK which presumably was not via HR, then I don't believe that an intelligent woman like her would think that going to HR would be the correct procedure. And her claim that this was what she did is either a lit, or actually a dig at Harry because he was surely lacking in not helping her himself.

trisher I believe you have misinterpreted my posts. I can understand Meghan feeling anxious, etc but what I am quibbling about is the lies she has told and the exaggerations to her stories. I am not picking on Meghan ... in fact, I was a great fan at first, but her actions changed my mind, and I would point out that we are allowed to disagree with your own firm views.

a lie not a "lit"

So you believe the RF who have a track record of not looking after women? I would imagine as always the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Harry probably thought he'd married a strong woman who would cope and didn't notice what was happening.
Perhaps William should have kept out of it. Little brothers hate being told what to do by older brothers, so it might have made Harry more determined.

trisher Not sure if your last post is addressed to me, but anyway .... I am using my common sense.

Maybe Harry "didn't notice what was happening" as you say, although we know from Meghan herself that she told him.

We also know that Harry has been described by Army colleagues and friends as "stubborn" and also as "fiery".

Harry was hardly a "little brother" but a man in his 30s who could surely accept that this was good advice coming from a family member who loved him and had always had his best interests at heart. If William's concern did indeed make "Harry more determined", as you say, I think that shows a tremendous immaturity on Harry's part.

There is absolutely no way on earth I would take marital advice from mysibling, and I am sure he feels the same. I think ignoring that advice is fairly standard behaviour to be honest.

I wouldn’t take marital advice from any of my siblings, nor would I offer it.
I’m also glad my ‘friends’ don’t pass on their opinions of me in the media.

I come back to the point that taking marital advice from a sibling is not the issue. Telling the world all about his brother's "interference' is.

I'm of the opinion if you sincerely believe the advice you give someone you shouldn't be upset when they tell others about it. Anyway does anyone know that William minded, or is it just the "here's another stick to beat H&M with" crew on GN?

here’s another stick to beat H&M with…..
Do you honestly believe that the interview was the right thing to do? I think it was appalling, and just not what is done in any family, let alone such a high profile family. Meghan was being spiteful, and that is clear to see. It’s not about another stick to beat them with, it’s about recognition of appalling behaviour.

Oh come on many much worse things are produced by the media. The RF has always been dysfunctional and pretended they weren't. I'm not emotionally involved in this like some seem to be.

What is a normal family trisher? Most families are dysfunctional in some way or other. And I do believe that interview was an appalling thing to do. It was spiteful and nasty. Perhaps you think that’s okay, but I don’t.

Maddyone it seemed spiteful and nasty to me but perhaps that’s her normal behaviour, in which case we shouldn’t criticise.

Oh come on many much worse things are produced by the media

Far worse things may be produced by the media, but they are not members of the family they are attempting to trash so publicly. This same family is the source of a considerable amount of money which enables Meghan's very comfortable lifestyle, and the connection she so ruthlessly exploits to gain (I refuse to say earn) yet more money.

As the money isn't earned by the RF I don't care who gets it. The RF have mistreated and exploited so many people perhaps it's time someone treated them badly.
As for a "normal" family or even a "high profile" family, can they be both?

trisher explains your loyal support for Meg

And your idea of justice.
Explains a lot.

Anniebach

trisher explains your loyal support for Meg

It isn't support it's simply taking an unemotional and non-judgemental view. For some reason I don't regard MM as an evil woman sent to steal our prince. I can't see that she's committed any major sins. She married into a family, she didn't like it. They left. They did an interview about what happened.
I certainly don't adore the RF the way some do
As for justice, there's none to be found on GN especially for women who dare to do as they want.

There's a secret society of us Meghan Maniacs trisher, I'll send you the link.

The only qualification for entry to the society is that you don't think Meghan is evil to the core. For an extra small donation you can join the Diana Devotees at the same time.

We have a secret handshake and everything.

trisher you can accept what the Sussexes did, I cannot, I do not worship the R.F. I am certainly not a Diana devotee.

I think your mocking of 1950’s women was an insult to so many strong women, we have different views on what makes a
strong woman, for you it’s a woman who is happy to move on
to get what she wants and bugger who she hurts doing so or who she uses.