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FannyCornforth Fri 09-Jul-21 09:12:05

Welcome to Thread II!

We companionably mused, gossiped and waffled about Royalty, and vaguely related things for 1000 posts!

Starting with names; and ending on them them…
and in between covered everything from Adam Faith to Scottish Country Dancing!

So, as before, God Bless this Ship and All who Sail in her! ??

trisher Sun 18-Jul-21 22:08:03

Thanks Alegrias1 I look forward to our first secret meeting! I've rolled my trouser leg up already.

Can calling someone a 1950s housewife really be considered an insult if you think that is a role women should aspire to Annie?

maddyone Sun 18-Jul-21 22:22:42

I don’t hate Meghan. Why would I? I don’t know her. But the interview she gave was just a horrid thing to do. I maintain it was spiteful. She knew the whole world would see it, and she knew the RF couldn’t answer back. There really are no winners in a situation like this, least of all the children, who effectively only have one grandparent. I hope H&M bring the children over to see their other grandparents and great grandparent, and all their cousins and aunt and uncle.

Lucca Sun 18-Jul-21 22:26:25

eazybee

*And let's not forget she was an actress so she's used to playing a part.*
You said it, Lucca. Meghan has dissembled, been economical with the truth and told outright lies, thus losing all credibility. She is permanently playing a part, that of being a victim.
If you want an example of someone who recognises the 'professional necessity for looking OK' you have HRH the Queen, a woman who has carried on through crisis after crisis but who would never, ever discuss her feelings in public.

Er… No I didn’t say that !

Lucca Sun 18-Jul-21 22:32:01

“ Megan had her own interests,writing on bananas to abused women, writing a cookery book.”

Oh for goodness sake. Why so catty ? That is not all Meghan has done (why don’t you persist on spelling her name differently? Are you making a point ?)

Lucca Sun 18-Jul-21 22:40:03

Guess I’ll be joining Alegrias and Trisher’ s secret society ie being in a minority in that not liking the wholesale damning of Meghan Harry and Diana apparently makes us Meghan fans and Diana worshippers. I’m neither as I’ve said many times but it’s fallen on deaf ears. I think they all make/have made mistakes as have we all but don’t merit all this nastiness.

The glee with which some leap into these threads to trash those three is a bit nauseating to be honest.

Anniebach Sun 18-Jul-21 22:45:04

The glee some leap into these threads to mock other posters

maddyone Sun 18-Jul-21 22:53:28

I neither hate nor have damned Meghan, Harry, or Diana. Nor do I worship them. So please do not accuse me of such. I simply stated that I thought the interview was spiteful. I not going to change my mind on that and suddenly decide it was loveliest and kindest thing to do because in my opinion it wasn’t. I’m not filled with glee, nor do I think I have trashed any of them. I think the interview was ill advised to be honest, but the RF will get over it. Like they got over Mrs Simpson.

Ellianne Sun 18-Jul-21 22:53:29

Sorry your thread appears to have disintegrated a bit Fanny, but back to the C & D programme you suggested, there was a brief interview with a Spencer cousin of Diana's. He explained that the Spencer family is actually more aristocratic than the royals and that was a big reason why she was the perfect choice for Charles. She wasn't attracted by his wealth or fame, but was truly in love with him.
I also didn't realise Charles had had a couple of girls reject his proposals prior to Diana, the same as Harry before Meghan.

maddyone Sun 18-Jul-21 22:55:31

It’s very sad isn’t it? The proposals were turned down because the ladies involved could see what royal life is like and decided that it wasn’t for them.

Ellianne Sun 18-Jul-21 22:56:58

Yes, sad all round.

maddyone Sun 18-Jul-21 22:58:52

Given that, I feel sorry for Meghan as I don’t think she had the first clue about what she was stepping into.

Ellianne Sun 18-Jul-21 23:11:50

Yes. I think in some ways Meghan was too much of an agitator, and the causes she was passionate about didn't sit comfortably within the confines of the Royal Family.
They tried to tailor things towards her leanings, but clearly that didn't work either.

eazybee Mon 19-Jul-21 07:11:24

Sorry Maddyone, but I honestly do not believe Meghan Markle had the slightest interest in the way the royal family functioned when she met and married Prince Harry. She saw a wealthy, easily manipulated man able to provide the status she needed to become a 'celebrity'; the concept of public service was alien to her and she had no intention of observing it. She totally disregarded any advice offered to her by experienced staff appointed for that purpose, ten of whom are now preparing to give evidence against her concerning the bullying allegations.

The spite with which she and the despicable Harry have attacked the family who provided their gilded lifestyle is the main reason for my intense dislike of both of them.

More lies revealed today: MM was in negotiations with Netflix about her project Pearl in 2018 whilst still a 'working' member of the RF. Harry said in The Interview that such multi-million deals were never the intention, but were 'forced upon them when his family cut them off financially after they relocated abroad', at the end of 2019.

Calendargirl Mon 19-Jul-21 07:51:28

maddyone

Given that, I feel sorry for Meghan as I don’t think she had the first clue about what she was stepping into.

But it was up to Harry to tell her!

I think he glossed over the not-so-good parts as he was terrified she would walk away, the same as Chelsy and Cressida.

Meghan however was sure she could change the old order and bend it to her way of thinking. When this didn’t happen….we’ll, then they both walked.

trisher Mon 19-Jul-21 09:05:16

eazybee the concept of public service was alien to her and she had no intention of observing it.
This is one of the myths perpetuated byMeghan haters-that she was just an actress. In fact she was involved in charity work before her marriage. A quick Google would tell you about it. Possibly she wanted action instead of discussion and delay in the RF .https://www.worldvision.org.uk/about/celebrity-supporters/meghan-markle/

trisher Mon 19-Jul-21 09:06:13

www.worldvision.org.uk/about/celebrity-supporters/meghan-markle/
Don't know why it didn't work

Anniebach Mon 19-Jul-21 09:34:57

Meg was more than just an actress, she spoke out about many
political issues.

But she used people , her first husband said he felt like something stuck to the bottom of her shoe.

She lived with a celebrity chef then dumped him when she met
Harry.

She uses people, she lies, she wants the world stage to further her ambitions, not to be a Hollywood celebrity but to have
celebrity status so she can speak out about things she really does care about.

Alegrias1 Mon 19-Jul-21 09:36:03

Then the best thing we can all do is just to ignore her, wouldn't you agree?

Mollygo Mon 19-Jul-21 09:39:03

Alegrias1 Yes.

Anniebach Mon 19-Jul-21 09:42:58

Difficult to ignore someone who keeps putting herself on the front pages.

I don’t care who she slept with to further her ambitions, I do
care that she lied in the Oprah interview.

Anyone who has had a loved one spoken about publicly, as I have , would feel the same as I do.

Alegrias1 Mon 19-Jul-21 09:47:21

Difficult to ignore someone who keeps putting herself on the front pages.

I can manage it. Buy different papers.

lemsip Mon 19-Jul-21 09:48:20

I don't understand why when a person shows you there spiteful crafty side while having a pretty face you are called haters if you point this out...;......to keep pointing out the haters means you have lack of understanding what is before you and....a lot of time on your hands!

Alegrias1 Mon 19-Jul-21 09:50:38

when a person shows you there spiteful crafty side while having a pretty face

You could just not look at what she shows you. I don't think its compulsory yet.

Anniebach Mon 19-Jul-21 10:06:19

There is a thread this morning Alegrias1 about a woman, do
post there and tell those posters to ignore what is written about
her. I look forward to reading the replies .

trisher Mon 19-Jul-21 10:06:38

I find this attitude of "they do awful things to get their money" highly amusing. Where on earth do you think the RF got their cash? Nothing at all ethical there!