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FannyCornforth Fri 09-Jul-21 09:12:05

Welcome to Thread II!

We companionably mused, gossiped and waffled about Royalty, and vaguely related things for 1000 posts!

Starting with names; and ending on them them…
and in between covered everything from Adam Faith to Scottish Country Dancing!

So, as before, God Bless this Ship and All who Sail in her! ??

Alegrias1 Tue 31-Aug-21 11:39:21

I googled the curtseying thing. It all makes absolute sense, in the 21st century confused

As alluded to previously, the wife takes on her husband’s rank when the couple is together. In a sense, the husband’s presence validates the wife’s royal status. For example, if Meghan Markle and Prince Harry were in a room with the queen, Prince Charles, Camilla, Princess Anne, Princess Beatrice, and Princess Eugenie, Meghan would only need to curtsy to the queen, Prince Charles, and Camilla, because they are the only royals in the room who rank higher than her. In this example, Anne, Beatrice, and Eugenie would actually have to curtsy to Meghan because she takes on Harry’s rank, which is above that of those three women. (This would be the first time British royalty would curtsy for an American, according to Best Life.) Now imagine that same scenario, except Prince Harry isn’t there to accompany his wife. In that case, Meghan would have to curtsy to everyone in the room.

Sorry to introduce she who must not be named, it is purely coincidental grin

FannyCornforth Tue 31-Aug-21 12:13:46

Meghan would have to curtsy to everyone in the room

‘Up and down like a merryman’s backside’

There used to be a rather odd broadcaster on BBC WM who used this phrase.
Malcolm something or other.
I haven’t thought of it for 20 odd years

JenniferEccles Tue 31-Aug-21 12:41:03

Rather than “she who must not be named” I think “she who must be obeyed” is entirely appropriate for the un-named woman.

FannyCornforth Tue 31-Aug-21 12:43:58

‘She who must be obeyed’ was Mrs Hilda Rumpole smile

Alegrias1 Tue 31-Aug-21 12:47:15

She how must be obeyed was the H Rider Haggard character. I loved that film when I was young!

FannyCornforth Tue 31-Aug-21 13:00:37

Thank you Al, I was trying to think where it originated from

Anniebach Tue 31-Aug-21 13:01:51

I enjoyed that film too

Alegrias1 Tue 31-Aug-21 13:02:37

She's my role model grin

Anniebach Tue 31-Aug-21 13:17:05

Surely not , but thinking about it ?

Alegrias1 Tue 31-Aug-21 13:17:38

wink

FannyCornforth Tue 31-Aug-21 13:22:54

Blimey! shock

eazybee Tue 31-Aug-21 16:04:57

With regard to curtseying my grandmother and her sisters got into trouble with the Squire's wife, Yorkshire, 1890s, because they didn't curtsey to her on their way home from school. She drove round to reprimand their mother for not bringing them up properly.
Interestingly, those sisters were all passionate supporters of the royal family and several of them were tenants and worked on estates belonging to siblings of George VI; they were good landlords and actually swept off their hats as they rode past!

Grany Tue 31-Aug-21 16:30:38

When Charles moved into this house, the taxpayer spent £4.5m on refurbishing it for him.

The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall
Thank you for exploring Clarence House with us over the last month.

We are looking forward to welcoming you back for a visit soon!

@RepublicStaff

One day it’ll be open all year round as a museum. Rather than used as one of many tax funded private homes for a man whose sole qualification is his mother. twitter.com/clarencehouse/…

Grany Tue 31-Aug-21 18:13:56

Letters to Guardian BBC and impartiality is it though. hmm

With his abject apology for reporting the truth to the nation about the Queen's remarks to the home secretary about Abu Hamza, George Entwistle has failed his first test as BBC director general (Report, 26 September). If the BBC is worth having at all, it must act primarily in the public interest. That means it must override the personal feelings of an octogenarian monarch who, like her eldest son, indulges in a non-constitutional relationship with elected politicians (Government fights release of royal veto rules, 26 September).

The BBC must now end its subservient and pro-monarchy role and adopt the neutral stance its charter requires in all its conduct. As for the royals, they must either stop making political remarks or resign their office and become a low-cost bicycling monarchy with a purely symbolic role and no power of patronage. They cannot have it both ways.

The Queen has made Graham Ellis -- the BBC's Royal Liaison Officer -- a Lieutenant of the Royal Victorian Order (LVO) . #BirthdayHonours

No one at the BBC should be given honours, given they should be able to report the royals and government without fear or favour. This one in particular looks like thanks for all the PR.

Grany Wed 01-Sept-21 21:00:19

Some people think we'll lose the changing of the guard and other ceremonial fixtures if we ditch the monarchy. Why? Republics have ceremonial changing of the guard, including Czechia, India, France, US, Russia, South Korea and of course the splendid Greeks.

twitter.com/RepublicStaff/status/1433114810481324033?s=20

Calendargirl Thu 02-Sept-21 07:06:47

Come on Grany, please tell us whether you are Monarchy or Republican?

We would love to know.

Anniebach Thu 02-Sept-21 07:56:25

Russia, Korea, India ! the republicans dream of democracy

Alegrias1 Thu 02-Sept-21 08:06:41

India's the biggest democracy in the world.

"Korea" isn't a country.

nadateturbe Tue 07-Sept-21 23:19:40

FannyCornforth
Up and down like a merryman’s backside’??
Never heard this one.

lemsip Wed 08-Sept-21 00:05:18

Malcolm Boyden's Sayins. (Former BBC Radio WM presenter)
Up & down like a merryman’s backside

FannyCornforth Wed 08-Sept-21 07:35:30

Yes, lemsip. He was quite a radio one off. I seem to collect curious characters
Speaking of which, nadateturbe have you listed to Steve Allen on LBC yet? I feel like we should virtually listen along together, so that I can support you through the experience! smile

nadateturbe Wed 08-Sept-21 20:58:52

Lemsip thank you. I've googled but I can't find out what it means.
FannyCornforth the thought of needing support for the experience makes me very curious.?. But what a ridiculous hour to listen. I will have a look at what I can listen to on catchup.

Elegran Wed 08-Sept-21 21:22:58

Well, a merryman was a jester and was usually a cheeky chappy and ready for all kinds of naughtiness. Perhaps his backside went up and down like the fiddler's elbow (another saying) ?

nadateturbe Wed 08-Sept-21 22:44:18

Thank you Elegran for your well worded explanation.

FannyCornforth Thu 09-Sept-21 08:00:19

Hello Elegran, it’s nice to see you posting (especially here, the best ‘independent’ thread on GN smile). I noticed that you’ve been missed by other posters on other threads.
I like your explanation too

nadateturbe you should be able to get Uncle Steve on Global Player. However, it’s not the most reliable platform at the moment, it seems to be playing up.