Perverted man claims to be a woman - may be housed in a women's prison

Your first paragraph...

Why say something like that?

You shouldn't take this awful human`s crimes out on innocent trans people or their allies.

Your anger and disgust are valid, your method of expressing it is wrong and unjustifiable.

The changes to legislation and the general demands which have been pushed by trans people and their allies are what has led to this person being referred to as 'she' and to the real possibility that he could be locked in with women.

Why say something like my first paragraph?
Because I believe it, based on what some have said previously.

Exactly why I have no desire to stay on a thread where I am a "bad person" simply for being trans inclusive and where my opinion on individual related issues doesn't matter and makes me "less than" others.

I'll leave you to it.

Here is a link to a petition asking the Independent Press Standards Association to be truthful about criminals' biological sex.

It gives a number of recent examples of crimes by males being reported as if they were committed by women.

Please consider signing the petition.

www.change.org/p/i-tell-ipso-we-need-truthful-crime-reporting-where-sex-is-concerned?recruiter=false&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=c91c6140-6395-11ec-a134-8f6c93510c98

I did not mention you, or anyone else, VioletSky.
Why would you think I might mean you?

It’s horrible, isn’t it?

Can those who identify as trans allies not see that this is a perfect example of how statistics get skewed? The crime will be recorded as committed by a woman, even though it wasn’t, and even though it’s all but impossible for a woman to have sex with a dog. As women so rarely commit sex crimes, every case is statistically important.

It also acts as an example of how the actions of creatures like this who claim to be trans act against the interests of ‘genuine’ transpeople, who must also be appalled by this.

Further, the perpetrator will be housed in a women’s prison. Imagine being locked in a cell with that.

I’m not, of course, suggesting that anyone would defend his actions, nor that they are in any way typical of transpeople (or of humans of any stripe), but I am asking trans allies how a convicted paedophile who used his penis to have sex with a dog can be counted as female in the statistics and housed in a woman’s prison? Seriously?

Oh, cut it out, VS.

Nobody said that you or anyone else is a bad person?. Answer if you like, ignore if you don’t, but please don’t make this all about you.

Quite right Doodledog, unfortunately this has happened before though.

This person whether male or female, is a disgusting specimen. He was already a convicted paedophile, and was on a life term Sex Offenders License, when he decided to rape his Alsation dog and film it. Now he'll be in a prison cell with women who are vulnerable and at further risk of harm. He should in a men's prison, in solitary confinement, where he can no longer sexually abuse either children or animals.

What part of putting their penis into a defenceless animal makes them female?

You put it perfectly Doodledog, but I very much doubt s/he'd be put in a cell with anyone else and I'm not sure how well s/he'll survive in whatever prison s/he ends up in.

I've signed the petition FarNorth. It's high time crime stats were recorded accurately.

Well said Doodledog

Signed

Signed!

Thanks for the link FarNorth, I’ve signed.
If he’s Sent to a male prison, he’s likely to be rule 43, where he’ll meet other perverted male sex offenders. I hope he isn’t sent to a Women’s prison where the majority of inmates have their own experience of being abused.

That poor dog. It was used in group sex by this man and other depraved perverts. It may be impossible to rehabilitate.
I don’t believe this man is capable of, or wants to change. Sweeping statement I acknowledge but this isn’t his first sexual offence

Signed. FarNorth your first paragraph puts it perfectly. Some on this site will see this as non-controversial non-news of a vulnerable transwoman.
Others more astute posters will see it as an attempt by a truly vile man to use his penis on an innocent dog, then vilify innocent transpeople by implication, by claiming to be a TW.
Every single TW who commits a crime, particularly a sexual crime and wants to be treated like the woman he isn’t, does as much harm to the trans cause as those who shout, scream and rant that TWAW and anyone who doesn’t believe their fantasy is transphobic!

Disgraceful beyond belief. Animals subjected to such appalling treatment must be traumatised for life. Unlike humans they can’t have counselling. I hope this person receives punishment at the hands of fellow prisoners whether male or (but hopefully not) female.

I blame the powers that be for allowing this abomination to get away with it. Living in a country where pc and woke is the norm and God help you if you say it like it is. (That's not a woman but an ugly perverted disgusting man in a wig making out he's a tw and making a fool of the justice system by allowing it to be in a womans prison) and for God's sake don't mention vaginas. The Human Rights lawyers have a lot to answer for.

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Maudi. Crossed thread. I couldn’t agree more with your post.

I think on the whole we are all trans inclusive, when stories like this appear it just angers all of us as we know it is an abuse of the system.
It sets back the whole LBGBTQ campaign years.

I'm with VioletSky on this. Forum clickbait. Deliberately designed to antagonise.

It doesn’t matter what she calls herself, in order to be female she must have two XX chromosomes. In order to be male there must be an X and a Y chromosomes. No one can change sex, but they can choose to live as the opposite sex. It’s a fact.

Given her crime, I think she should serve her time in a male prison.