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Perverted man claims to be a woman - may be housed in a women's prison

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FarNorth Thu 23-Dec-21 01:31:12

Possibly some on this site think this is non-controversial non-news of a vulnerable transwoman.

"Paedophile, 60, who identifies as female is jailed for 20 months after having cocaine-fuelled sex with a dog "

"The pervert was listed under a male name but with a note added to be addressed in the hearing as Claire.

A Sexual Harm Prevention Order is under her new name, but it is not clear whether she will serve time in men's or women's prison."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10336917/Paedophile-60-identifies-female-jailed-20-months-sex-dog.html .

FarNorth Thu 23-Dec-21 09:22:29

I forgot to add the photo, for those who don't want to click on the link.

At least the Daily Mail makes clear that this is a man, despite referring to him as 'she'.
Many other reports claim throughout that this is a woman.

HowVeryDareYou Thu 23-Dec-21 09:25:39

HE (he's got a penis, he's a man, he's got male chromosomes, will ALWAYS be male, no matter what) should be sent to a prison for men.

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Oldwoman70 Thu 23-Dec-21 09:41:06

I have said before I fully support anyone undergoing the very difficult process to trans. but if that person still has male genitalia they are men and, if they break the law, should be treated as such.

Some defendants falsely claim to identify as women in the hope they will receive lighter sentences and serve their time in a female prison giving them access to vulnerable women

Calistemon Thu 23-Dec-21 09:49:26

He is, as Maudi says, making a fool of the justice system and of all of us.

This manipulation of trans-rights has to stop.

It is in the interests of no-one.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 23-Dec-21 09:54:29

A pervert is a pervert however they identify…

Anyone raping with a penis is a man…

Nothing to add.

Doodledog Thu 23-Dec-21 09:56:05

GagaJo

I'm with VioletSky on this. Forum clickbait. Deliberately designed to antagonise.

Antagonise whom? Do you have anything to say about the case, or did you just want to have a poke at those who dare to question the TWAW ideology?

Calistemon Thu 23-Dec-21 10:00:51

I am surprised that some think it is fine for a male paedophile convicted of bestiality to shelter under the umbrella of transrights.

I don't think any right-minded person of any sex or gender would think that this is acceptable..

Doodledog Thu 23-Dec-21 10:06:15

To be fair, I don't think anyone has said it was acceptable.

Calistemon Thu 23-Dec-21 10:12:48

Fair enough.

But an odd response, nonetheless.

JaneJudge Thu 23-Dec-21 10:17:07

it's disgraceful that he could be housed in a women's prison

Calistemon Thu 23-Dec-21 10:17:56

Obviously some in the CJS think this is acceptable as this would otherwise be disallowed.

JaneJudge Thu 23-Dec-21 10:20:15

I didn't think the original post was in any way antagonistic. Lots of posters have been quite clear what they object to with respect to trans rights and language used and laws changed and how that may impact vulnerable women (or children as stated) and this is an example of why those changes in law need to be considered carefully.

It doesn't make anyone a bigot or transphobic. It is sensible

trisher Thu 23-Dec-21 10:24:00

Well as a transgender prison unit was opened in 2020 hopefully this person will be accommodated there. It is a problem which arose very recently and it is being dealt with.

Galaxy Thu 23-Dec-21 10:27:31

What a surprise that this problem arose. What a surprise that nobody anticipated that this might happen. Oh wait I remember some feminists talking about it. For years.

Cherrytree59 Thu 23-Dec-21 10:27:39

Signed.
but unfortunately I'm not sure it will make make much difference. Who will listen?
It would seem we as a majority are less important.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 23-Dec-21 10:27:41

trisher

Well as a transgender prison unit was opened in 2020 hopefully this person will be accommodated there. It is a problem which arose very recently and it is being dealt with.

Wasn’t aware of that trisher thank you, it seems like a step in the right direction.

Doodledog Thu 23-Dec-21 10:29:18

Interesting. Are transmen and transwomen housed together in the new unit?

FarNorth Thu 23-Dec-21 10:30:14

GagaJo

I'm with VioletSky on this. Forum clickbait. Deliberately designed to antagonise.

What do you mean by clickbait?

It is a report of a crime that genuinely happened and this vile male person could very well be imprisoned with women.

Those are facts.

FarNorth Thu 23-Dec-21 10:34:28

I hope so too trisher but it is by no means certain.
We also need factual recording of crimes, by the police, and factual reporting by the media.

Chewbacca Thu 23-Dec-21 10:39:50

I'm with VioletSky on this. Forum clickbait. Deliberately designed to antagonise.

Is that the fulmination of your outrage about this Gagajo? You dismiss the discussion of a convicted paedophile, drug addicted dog rapist to clickbait that's designed to antagonize? Have you nothing to say about his depravity? His victims? His sexually driven criminal history? His sudden discovery that he now he's facing a prison sentence that he's actually "a woman"? Nothing to say about the women he'll potentially be locked in a cell with? hmm

FarNorth Thu 23-Dec-21 10:41:19

Here is info I found, about the wing for transwomen prisoners - 3 of them initially.

www.prisonphone.co.uk/blog/hmp-downview-the-first-prison-with-a-wing-dedicated-to-transgender-inmates/

Rosie51 Thu 23-Dec-21 10:41:53

trisher

Well as a transgender prison unit was opened in 2020 hopefully this person will be accommodated there. It is a problem which arose very recently and it is being dealt with.

Do you know where this unit is trisher, I don't think it's been widely publicised? I wonder why this problem has only recently arisen given that trans people have been amongst us for ever, it can't be that transpeople have only just begun committing crimes. Out of interest are transmen currently housed in the male estate does anybody know?

Rosie51 Thu 23-Dec-21 10:46:23

Thanks FarNorth you answered part of my post while I was typing. I see they make no mention of transmen prisoners.

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