Camilla-Queen Consort?

My phone won’t let me quote if there’s already a quote in the post. Either parents can leave their offspring with grandparents or they can’t. Time wasn’t mentioned initially.

Diana was brilliant at manipulating the media, her comment "There was 3 of us in this marriage" will go down in history as the truth, yet at the time, Charles went on TV and told Johnathan Dimbleby he hadn't resumed his relationship with Camilla untill his marriage had completely broken down. I for one believe him, for all his faults I don't think it's something he would go on TV and lie about. Camilla has said in the past she doesn't want to be Queen, she knows there will still be a lot of objections.

Yammy

FannyCornforth

Yammy Camilla can’t be ‘just’ Queen in the same way that Phillip wasn’t King.
She won’t be the monarch.

I think that we are all aware of the awful things that are happening in the world

Then why was the queen's mother always known as the Queen and then the Queen mother? Is it something to do with the man being the king so his wife is queen and when the woman is queen her husband is only consort like Prince Albert? We have had Queen Mary and Alexandra.
Though somewhere I seem to remember William of Orange insisting on being king and not consort to Queen Mary.

Cards on the table - don't give a sh*t

But I do remember reading somewhere years ago that the whole King/Queen, Queen/Prince thing is related to a made-up list of precedence that's kept down the back of a sofa somewhere in Windsor.

In the case of ‘equal’ ranks, the male takes precedence over the female, so if the wife of a King becomes Queen that’s fine, the King’s still in charge. But if the husband of a Queen becomes King then she has to defer to him, so he becomes Prince instead.

Of course none of this makes any sense at all and could equally have come from a fever dream I had, but I’m sure there’s someone out there who cares about this stuff who can enlighten us.

If you don’t care ‘about this stuff’ why do you want to be - enlightened?

I have read a lot on the monarchy. Right back in the realms of time, up to the present day, there has not been a Royal Family without some sort of scandal. This is nothing new. It’s a shame that we can’t have a more Scandinavian style of monarchy. Indeed, some of them are related to our RF! As had been pointed out, when and if Charles gets to be King, Camilla will become Queen. Yes, officially she will be Queen Consort (as was the Queen Mother) but her title will be Queen Camilla. I don’t imagine William and Harry will be overjoyed, but that’s how things work. The Daily Mail and all who sail in her will have to go back to rubbishing Meghan again - I’m talking about after HM Queen’s death, obviously.

I think camilla should be queen she seems to be a very compasionate kind and mature woman she would make a better queen than diana ever would

£13million of public money on private flights and helicopter journeys!

Pollutants from helicopters are noise,carbon dioxide,nitrogen oxides, sulphur oxide,unburnt hydrocarbons,carbon monoxide,particulate matter and soot.They are grossly fuel inefficient and the dust from them have immediate impact on health and wildlife habitats

Charles
Hypocrites talk the talk don't walk the walk

RF fraught the little people to be rulers still doing it.

Queen Concubine would have my vote.

I didn’t think the British public would ever accept that woman as queen. But clearly I’m wrong.

What do you think might happen Fernhillnana? Insurrection on the streets?

A republican coup? Now that would be worth it....

Camilla and Charles have very carefully cultivated her image with the population. I read about this years ago, they knew it would take years for the public to change its perception of her. But the oldies of us may never change our thoughts, whereas the younger generation, who weren’t around, really don’t care much.

Re Camilla’s hair style: I read that Prince Charles insists on that style!

Tempest

Queen Concubine would have my vote.

*Quote of the Day!*? ? ?

Anniebach

If you don’t care ‘about this stuff’ why do you want to be - enlightened?

Because I still want to understand.

Yawn

Jaxie

Re Camilla’s hair style: I read that Prince Charles insists on that style!

I’d heard that too.
I think that she has fab hair and it suits her face shape

FannyCornforth

Yammy Camilla can’t be ‘just’ Queen in the same way that Phillip wasn’t King.
She won’t be the monarch.

I think that we are all aware of the awful things that are happening in the world

The Queen Mother was always referred to as Queen Elizabeth before the king died. When together they were called the King and Queen. She was never called Queen Consort. Prince Philip could not have the title of King because as a man he would then have outranked his wife, the reigning monarch,

When the Queen dies, that will be the start of end of our royal family as we know it. I don’t think Charles will be as popular and have the same respect as what the Queen has, therefore don’t think people will be bothered what title Camilla takes on.

Daisend1

The fact she will NOT become Princess of Wales is more than enough.

She is actually The Princess of Wales but has chosen not to use the title. She will also be Queen when Charles is King and will be addressed as Your Magesty same as the Queen Mother, Queen Mary and so on were before her.

There were faults all round in the sorry saga of Charles/Diana/Camilla but Camilla bore the brunt of the criticism. I think she has behaved with dignity since her marriage and carried out her role very well. Time for us all to move on.

I agree with Kate
Kate1949 Sat 22-Jan-22 16:17:36
I'm another one who thinks Diana was treated appallingly. When people say she was difficult, had mental health problems, was neurotic, so would I be if I realised my husband was in love with someone else when he married me.

Diana was a young woman who should have received support and help and friendship. She married a man in love with another woman who was a married woman. It appers that he did not end the relationship.

This behaviour is unacceptable when you are in the public domain as the representative of a nation and the common wealth etc.

Her past behaviour was deplorable. As was her husband’s. They still make me cringe. I can never unhear the Tampax remark. But she will be queen because she’s married to the King. I’m not a fan, but I hope I’m realistic. Sauce for the goose.

There has never been any proof that Charles was in an affair with Camilla when he married

I can see no justification for her not being given the title of Queen if she and Prince Charles are still married if or when he becomes King.

Kings in many countries have had more than one legal wife in the past and all were called Queen, irrespective of whether they were their husband's first wife or not, or had themselves been married before - Edward IV married a widow and no-one thought it odd that she was called Queen Elizabeth and all six wives of Henry VIII were called queen. James V of Scotland married a widow, Mary of Guise, too.

A woman has traditionally been held to take her husband's rank automatically upon a legal marriage being performed.