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Do we need the monarchy in this day and and age?

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maddyone Wed 23-Feb-22 11:48:54

Okay, it was suggested on a different thread that a new thread should be started about this, so here goes.
So do we need a monarchy today? That’s it really.

RVK1CR Sat 26-Feb-22 05:31:15

Callistemon21

^or Frogmore for H and M^.

Then there they were - gone!!

It wasn't grand enough , Old Megsie wanted a 'Castle' address. Not enough bathrooms either, they have 16 in 'Monteshito'

volver Sat 26-Feb-22 08:28:58

I've been to Montecito. Not their house, obviously. It's lovely there. But now we're making silly jokes about where they live. It's like dealing with toddlers.

Grany Sat 26-Feb-22 10:29:23

CaribbeanNewsNetwork
@caribbeannewsuk
#BREAKINGNEWS: The #Jamaica government says it will not be paying for the expected Royal visit of Britain's Prince William and his wife, Kate, the Duchess of Cambridge.

#BREAKINGNEWS: The disclosure was made by Minister without Portfolio in the Office of the Prime Minister, Robert Morgan at a post cabinet press briefing.

Jamaican Government must cancel this visit. A complete shame and desecration of our history.

The overstretched "UK" taxpayers will be paying for it, we're the royals cash cow, we pay for their homes, holidays, food, clothes, cars, boats, rape payoffs you name it we pay it.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 26-Feb-22 10:33:40

This has to be a first - I am agreeing with Grany about something concerning the monarchy. If Jamaica refuses to pay for the visit then I see no reason why we should.

Grany Sat 26-Feb-22 10:36:37

Thank you GSM Commonwealth realms usually pay for these trips, as they represent their own head of state (whereas we pay for royal trips to other countries). Well done #Jamaica This means the UK will pay for this pointless exercise while Jamaica debates becoming a republic.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 26-Feb-22 10:41:03

I hope the visit will be cancelled. We shouldn’t foot the bill for a visit to a country which presumably doesn’t want it to happen.

Grany Sat 26-Feb-22 10:45:22

Germanshepherdsmum

I hope the visit will be cancelled. We shouldn’t foot the bill for a visit to a country which presumably doesn’t want it to happen.

I agree

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 26-Feb-22 11:35:03

I’m now going to lie down to get over the shock of agreeing with Grany!?.
?*Grany*!

BlueBalou Sat 26-Feb-22 12:25:30

Grany

Germanshepherdsmum

I hope the visit will be cancelled. We shouldn’t foot the bill for a visit to a country which presumably doesn’t want it to happen.

I agree

I agree too. It’s hardly appropriate with the situation in Ukraine .Of course, it could always be seen as a distraction for something about to be disclosed elsewhere couldn’t it?

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 26-Feb-22 12:39:21

Ukraine or not, life goes on and if a Commonwealth country is considering becoming a republic and refuses to follow the usual practice of paying for a royal visit why should UK taxpayers pay for it?

Iam64 Sat 26-Feb-22 13:13:21

The Queen has a genuine commitment to the commonwealth. Jamaica is a republic. It was build as a British colony on the back of slaves. I’d say yes to a visit if the focus was commemorating the shared history and educating the racists in the UK who complain about ‘immigrants’ from former colonies.

nadateturbe Sat 26-Feb-22 14:12:00

Germanshepherdsmum

I’m now going to lie down to get over the shock of agreeing with Grany!?.
?*Grany*!

grin

Grany Sat 26-Feb-22 16:44:05

The commonwealth should ditch the Royals the queen not involved in the running of it. She asked that Charles take over from her even though the job's not hereditary, nepotism. It's just the RF way of seeming relevant. The modern Commonwealth now has 54 nation states any country can apply to join.

Jamaica is not a republic but is well on the way to be like Barbados recently has, more surely to follow.

Iam64 Sat 26-Feb-22 18:44:23

Whoops sorry for making Jamaica a republic- Grany is correct, it’s barbados

Lisaw1 Sun 27-Feb-22 13:00:11

of course e need our monarchy it is partof culture heritage and history. also the amount of tourism it brings to our country

Grany Sun 27-Feb-22 13:50:21

Lisaw1

of course e need our monarchy it is partof culture heritage and history. also the amount of tourism it brings to our country

We have lots of history heritage culture that don't involve RF

Monarchy does not bring in tourists

See republic Campaign their YouTube channel explains everything plenty of information

Grany Mon 28-Feb-22 09:54:52

How about this?

How close are the royals to the Russia oligarchs?

Prince Charles charity link to Russian offshore network

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47441113

The web of more than 70 offshore companies is exposed in a leak of 1.3 million confidential bank transactions to the Organised Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP), a consortium of east European investigative journalists who shared information and documents with the BBC and the Guardian.
Between 2009 and 2011 the Prince's Charities Foundation received three payments, adding up to $202,000 via a now-defunct bank in Lithuania.
The leaked bank data show the last of the payments went to an account held by the Prince's Charities Foundation.
The payments were from a company called Quantus Division Ltd, which is revealed today to have been part of a network of offshore companies that sent billions of dollars out of Russia.

And this is odd.

This is odd, and doesn't really explain what's happened here. The Speaker has confirmed that there is no reason MPs can't debate the issue.
@AndyMcDonaldMP

MPs blocked from investigating Prince Andrew settlement money mol.im/a/10558775 via
@MailOnline

henetha Mon 28-Feb-22 11:08:05

Yes, Lisawl, you are right. The monarchy are very much a part of our history and culture and they do attract tourism.
Long may they do so, in a slimmed down way.

trisher Mon 28-Feb-22 11:38:33

There is absolutely no reason all the pomp and ceremony surrounding the RF (which is what the tourists really come to see) shouldn't continue without a monarch. We could add a few more things as well, perhaps a president's day or a Democracy day to celebrate the date the RF ends.

Farzanah Mon 28-Feb-22 11:49:01

An Independence Day??

Grany Mon 28-Feb-22 15:06:28

trisher

There is absolutely no reason all the pomp and ceremony surrounding the RF (which is what the tourists really come to see) shouldn't continue without a monarch. We could add a few more things as well, perhaps a president's day or a Democracy day to celebrate the date the RF ends.

Agree

nadateturbe Mon 28-Feb-22 15:35:02

Grany

trisher

There is absolutely no reason all the pomp and ceremony surrounding the RF (which is what the tourists really come to see) shouldn't continue without a monarch. We could add a few more things as well, perhaps a president's day or a Democracy day to celebrate the date the RF ends.

Agree

Agree

Callistemon21 Mon 28-Feb-22 15:38:36

A President's Day?
???

I do hope that was a joke

Jaffacake2 Mon 28-Feb-22 15:55:58

I was just reading about the paid person who is sorely in charge of the queens footwear. They have to have the same shoe size in order to wear in the queens new shoes so that they don't hurt her feet. Then the job also entails the cleaning of her shoes and placing them in silk bags.
Sometimes it's like reading a fairy tale !!
Now I like the queen she has fulfilled her role over the decades. But really can we stop all this expense and ridiculous treatment of them.
Also in the fairy tale would be the Prince who insisted that a servant arranged his 60 teddy bears in the correct places on a bed !!

Callistemon21 Mon 28-Feb-22 15:59:42

Also in the fairy tale would be the Prince who insisted that a servant arranged his 60 teddy bears in the correct places on a bed !!

That might be a good job for DGD - she arranged teddies and other soft toys all around her on pillows when she stayed. They had to be in the right place ??
A place for everything and everything in its place!