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Do we need the monarchy in this day and and age?

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maddyone Wed 23-Feb-22 11:48:54

Okay, it was suggested on a different thread that a new thread should be started about this, so here goes.
So do we need a monarchy today? That’s it really.

Farzanah Sun 13-Mar-22 11:11:07

But the RF are modern day “celebrities” Mollygo especially the younger ones.
The press are always full of pics particularly of Catherine. They apparently sell papers, well the tabloids.
They are just a modern day soap opera, and an expensive one at that

Grany Sun 13-Mar-22 11:11:29

Mollygo

We have a very unequal society and people celebrating and revering ‘celebrities’ does more to damage society than the RF does.
Setting examples of rudeness and derogatory comments and thus implying that it’s OK to do so because you’re a republican and you don’t like the RF doesn’t do anything for the republican cause, but some posters on GN seem to think it’s OK.
If being a republican means being frequently rude and nasty as G and P demonstrate, it makes not being a republican a very attractive option.

RF queen is our HoS so is at the top of and perpetuates an unequal society. Celebraties earn their own wealth not given from public purse.
Elizabeth is queen name so can be shortened like anyone's name
I don't think Lizzie and Co necessarily is particularly derogatory it's plain speaking. I've heard worse spoken about RF

Grany Sun 13-Mar-22 11:14:05

It is time for Britons to ask what the monarchy is actually for

Callistemon21 Sun 13-Mar-22 11:16:07

I think we know.

Mollygo Sun 13-Mar-22 11:24:09

As I said, some ‘republican posters are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what republicans are.

Farzanah Sun 13-Mar-22 11:25:45

I tend to agree with what Hilary Mantel was reported as saying last year in the Telegraph, that she believes the Royal Family is in its end game, and won’t survive beyond two generations.
Unfortunately I won’t be here to see it.

Anniebach Sun 13-Mar-22 11:26:13

Definitely Mollygo , some posts cause fear of a republic,

Animal Farm comes to mind

Farzanah Sun 13-Mar-22 11:26:52

I am a republican but having a different point of view is not being “rude” is it?

nanna8 Sun 13-Mar-22 11:59:01

I think the RF are pretty rude with their monetary dealings.

Mollygo Sun 13-Mar-22 12:12:21

Farzanah

I am a republican but having a different point of view is not being “rude” is it?

Absolutely not, Farzanah but. . .

As I said, some ‘republican posters are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what republicans are.

volver Sun 13-Mar-22 12:42:30

There have been monarchists on here who have been derogatory about other countries' presidents. I mean truly dismissive and rude.

Are we to say they are setting a bad example of what monarchists are?

Grany Sun 13-Mar-22 13:01:30

I didn't know but there is a petition to abolish the monarchy on Republic website grin to those interested

Mollygo Sun 13-Mar-22 13:06:55

volver

There have been monarchists on here who have been derogatory about other countries' presidents. I mean truly dismissive and rude.

Are we to say they are setting a bad example of what monarchists are?

Absolutely-there may be republican posters who will be only too sorry they didn’t think of saying that before and will adopt it into their mantra.

As I said, some republican posters are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what republicans are

volver Sun 13-Mar-22 13:08:25

And some monarchists are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what monarchists are.

(This could go on a while.)

Mollygo Sun 13-Mar-22 13:09:29

Yes

As I said, some ‘republican posters are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what republicans are

volver Sun 13-Mar-22 13:14:47

And some monarchists are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what monarchists are.

(This is boring, but I've got nothing on this afternoon, so....)

Mollygo Sun 13-Mar-22 13:18:56

Well I have ‘got something on’, but republican posters on here like repetition so
. . .
As I said, some ‘republican posters are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what republicans are.

volver Sun 13-Mar-22 13:24:17

but republican posters on here like repetition

Why, do you think we're thick Mollygo?

That's not very nice.

And some monarchists are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what monarchists are.

I'm just staying in afternoon and reading the Republican's Rulebook.

Rule 1 - Repeat things.

Rule 2 - Think about the brave new world.

Rule 3 - Repeat things.

And some monarchists are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what monarchists are.

Grany Sun 13-Mar-22 13:30:18

You can sign a petition on Republic website to Abolish the monarchy

maddyone Sun 13-Mar-22 13:36:45

Well I started this thread, and after 574 posts I still don’t know if we need the monarchy or not grin

Anniebach Sun 13-Mar-22 13:44:13

Need ? No, head of state ? yes. Queen/King or President ?

Mollygo Sun 13-Mar-22 15:10:15

But Volver, G and P repeat things so often I thought that’s what republicans do. If you’ve never read a repeated post from them re the monarchy or the RF, then you must have missed their threads.
I never said they were thick. It’s their opinion, they can post it as often as they want so I don’t know why you mind it when I do the same.
As I said, some ‘republican posters are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what republicans are

Callistemon21 Sun 13-Mar-22 15:23:04

Mollygo

But Volver, G and P repeat things so often I thought that’s what republicans do. If you’ve never read a repeated post from them re the monarchy or the RF, then you must have missed their threads.
I never said they were thick. It’s their opinion, they can post it as often as they want so I don’t know why you mind it when I do the same.
As I said, some ‘republican posters are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what republicans are

Some posts are like Groundhog Day and have been for years, Mollygo

but republican posters on here like repetition

Why, do you think we're thick Mollygo?
No, it's because the always right republicans think other posters are and need educating!

In fact, some of us have thought long and hard about the pros and cons of a constitutional monarchy -v- a presidential system.

volver Sun 13-Mar-22 15:24:20

But Mollygo, some posters on here (no names, no pack drill) will try to defend the Monarch and her large family, with completely irrelevant comments. And some will ask the same questions about republicanism over and over, and just ignore any answers. And others will denigrate the Heads of State of other countries, just because they personally are a bit unsophisticated and have never heard of them.

I'm sure you can't have missed that?

So its clear to me, that some monarchists are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what monarchists are.

Mollygo Sun 13-Mar-22 15:29:40

As I said, some ‘republican posters are often so rude and derogatory that it sets a bad example of what republicans are.