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Gaudy peacocks at Prince Phillip’s memorial service

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Honeysuckleberries Tue 29-Mar-22 11:48:19

I’ve just watched the start of the service and I was surprised at the gaudy gold thread and over embellished vestments of the clergy. They looked like a flock of peacocks each trying to be more flamboyant and eye catching than the next, a church version of my dick is bigger than yours. Why?
Then there’s all the gold and flamboyance in the actual church itself, there’s an awful lot of money in the church isn’t there. It’s a far cry from preaching on the hillside and being good to the poor.
Still the choir are good.

Callistemon21 Tue 29-Mar-22 17:33:07

But sitting there watching the five trumpeters, like something out of Tudor times?

Great, don't let's lose some old traditions.

I'm not sure about the curtseying, my knees just don't allow it any more.

snowberryZ Tue 29-Mar-22 17:34:02

Feelingmyage55

A beautiful service, full of meaning and family supporting one and other and publicly acknowledging their love and admiration for their father, grandfather, great grandfather, cousin uncle, I could go on. The Queen showed her respect and love for her husband all through her life and yet again today.
I was glad to see Prince Andrew there. Love the sinner and not the sin (IF there was one). He is her second son. How many people come on to the estrangement threads looking for advice? Prince Andrew has officially stood down but he is still the Queen’s son. She is making a statement that fracturing the family gains nothing. As a devout Christian I am sure she believes “He who is without sin, cast the first stone”.
It was an event where all the family showed up together emphasising the importance of being a team loving one another, accepting one another’s differences of opinion but keeping an eye on the central values of family love.

Excellent post.
I agree with everything you say.

volver Tue 29-Mar-22 17:34:50

Well, that's your view to which you are entitled. But its not mine.

Vanessa59 Tue 29-Mar-22 17:34:50

No doubt Westminster Abbey could well afford all the clergymens' posh garb. It's the struggling little churches who serve the local community who are more of a concern.

Unpleasant OP.

Zoejory Tue 29-Mar-22 17:35:02

I must admit I missed the trumpeters and curtseying so don't know.

I think whilst the Queen is still alive and kicking these traditions will continue and quite possibly end when Charlie takes over.

Maybe.

volver Tue 29-Mar-22 17:35:29

Sorry, that was about trumpeters. Didn't type quick enough....

Callistemon21 Tue 29-Mar-22 17:37:01

Feelingmyage55

A beautiful service, full of meaning and family supporting one and other and publicly acknowledging their love and admiration for their father, grandfather, great grandfather, cousin uncle, I could go on. The Queen showed her respect and love for her husband all through her life and yet again today.

I'm sure it was and we shall look forward to watching it on catch-up.

Callistemon21 Tue 29-Mar-22 17:37:57

volver

Sorry, that was about trumpeters. Didn't type quick enough....

Oh dear, just wondering what is wrong with trumpeters

Anniebach Tue 29-Mar-22 17:39:03

When a child he had much turmoil , to see his family gathered together today , so much love

eazybee Tue 29-Mar-22 17:44:58

I love the trumpeters, their uniforms, their precision and their skilled performance; the fact that they appear as Tudors is simply a bonus.

Grandma70s Tue 29-Mar-22 17:52:40

I once was in a concert where we shared a dressing room with those trumpeters.

Smileless2012 Tue 29-Mar-22 18:01:51

It was lovely, very moving and fitting.

maddyone Tue 29-Mar-22 18:18:41

I didn’t watch as I’m in Portugal at the moment. If I’d been at home I would have watched. I’ve seen some of it on BBC World. Despite having decided I’m a republican, I do enjoy watching these national events. I hope to watch it completely when I get home.

mokryna Tue 29-Mar-22 18:41:22

There is another better titled and comment thread started now

Mollygo Tue 29-Mar-22 18:46:17

Thanks for telling me mokryna.

Coastpath Tue 29-Mar-22 20:36:29

Eazybee and Callistemon21. I am so sorry for your losses. A funeral does bring a little peace I think and enables you to reflect on all that was good about the person you loved.

flowers

Enid101 Tue 29-Mar-22 20:54:35

honeysuckleberries I agree with everything you said, and the way you said it.

Vintagejazz Tue 29-Mar-22 21:19:52

Op I do not totally agree with your sentiments but you have clarified your original post and, while people are free to disagree as do I there is no need for them to be so sanctimonious an d insulting. Sorry you're having to put up with this.

Callistemon21 Tue 29-Mar-22 21:31:31

eazybee

I agree with you Coastpath.
I attended the funeral service of a friend who died before his time following a painful illness, and the traditional service and interment in the peaceful graveyard was comforting and reassuring.

I'm sorry that your friend died before his time, eazybee.

The funeral we went to was of a friend who was a nonagenarian; she had led a very full life, it was sad but a lovely tribute to someone who had touched the lives of many people.

Rosina Tue 29-Mar-22 22:08:44

The amount of money that the Church invests in clothing and artefacts has always sat badly with me. When people are hungry, children go without, and a little help would transform lives, I do find it strange that Archbishops living in vast palaces upbraid the government of the day for not doing more. They are supposedly the followers of a carpenter, whose possessions could probably have been tied up in a sack and carried on a stick. Jesus wept.

Casdon Tue 29-Mar-22 22:26:44

paddyann54 that’s a mean remark. I had two friends who died during the pandemic, whose families decided they wanted memorial services because the funerals had been so restricted and they hadn’t felt their loved ones had the sendoff they deserved. They wanted a celebration of their lives. Would you grudge them that?

mumofmadboys Tue 29-Mar-22 23:32:57

Through most of my married life I lived in a vicarage. The house was used frequently for parish events and meetings. The same happens with bishops and archbishops homes. They have many more people staying. It is not as if the family have the home to themselves. I have no regrets by the way.

grannydarkhair Wed 30-Mar-22 04:13:51

One bit fascinated me - three adult men swathed in full length plain red robes walked in after the choristers had been seated but just ahead of all the clergy. Who were they? What do they do? Easy to see I’m a non church goer ?

OnwardandUpward Wed 30-Mar-22 08:08:26

Ilovecheese

There is a member of the Royal Family who should hang his head in shame, and he walked in with the Queen.

By the Queens choice. Her son who she loves, no matter what.
How many of us could say we are so loving or would be so loved?

BigBertha1 Wed 30-Mar-22 08:12:09

I watched the whole thing on catch up last night and really enjoyed it as a celebration of Prince Philip's life.

On a less serious note can the Duchess of Cambridge look more stunning? Fabulous outfit.