Gaudy peacocks at Prince Phillip’s memorial service

OnwardandUpward
By the Queens choice. Her son who she loves, no matter what.
How many of us could say we are so loving or would be so loved?
How many of us have said how we have turned our backs on sons or daughters? Or said how hurt we are about being rejected by family members?

Whilst Buddhist monks do dress frugally those I have met & worked with have been so spiritual that they did not really engage with worldly issues to the point of ignoring everyday life. I am sure there are some that do.
Equally I have met some priests/ ministers, who occasionally wear ceremonial robes , who do get involved in their communities on a very practical level.
I think it is a case of " Don't judge a book by its cover"

Watching a programme about York Minster last night the Precentor was showing some of the robes he wore; they were ninety years old. Some of the robes used for ceremonial occasions are centuries old . So if you pay for something good, you expect it to last.

I think the men in red robes were the vergers.
Thank you Callestimon and Coastpath for your kind comments.

I also think that Prince Andrew had every right to be there .

He's obviously a huge support to Her Majesty .

Several years ago we were in the Cathedral in Cadiz where they have a huge monstrance made from the silver they found in the new world in the 16th Century. I mean really huge.

The country of Spain was very poor at that time but they thought that a good use for all that wealth they had found was to make a showy silver thing, not use their wealth to make the country a better place for the people who live in it.

Plus ça change.

Oh dear! I did not see this memorial service but I do not agree that it was a family affair.
It was a very public & widely promoted celebration of an aristocrat's life.
A family memorial service could easily have taken place out of the public eye in the Chapel at Windsor.

To those saying that Andrew's high profile role in escorting the Queen was not a problem...sinners are welcome in church etc. there would have been an outcry if the chap who broke into Buck House or the man who tried to attack Princess Ann had tried to attend...some sinners are more equal than others.....

PECS oh come on. Prince Andrew is her son. A family member. He's only guilty in the court of public opinion!
I was glad to see him there.

Aveline

PECS oh come on. Prince Andrew is her son. A family member. He's only guilty in the court of public opinion!
I was glad to see him there.

Agreed. Trial by Twitter and the gutter press is irrelevant.

It wasn't just a family memorial service, it was also for people who had known and worked and admired Prince Philip in a public and private capacity, witness Doyin Sonibare who spoke about her Duke of Edinburgh's awards.

I felt it was deliberately a short service because of the Queen's health, otherwise there would have been many more tributes.

Aye, he just paid the $12 million out of the goodness of his heart.

To a charity

He should have been there because it was his father’s life being celebrated. He shouldn’t have had such a high profile role.
I don’t agree that this service was a family affair. There were 800 guests and royalty from several different countries present. That’s not a family affair. It was a state event.

Definitely not a family affair. If that had been the intention it would not have been televised. Family were there but…..

Not one of the nicest posts imo.
But it`s who`s there that matters,not who isn`t.

eazybee

It wasn't just a family memorial service, it was also for people who had known and worked and admired Prince Philip in a public and private capacity, witness Doyin Sonibare who spoke about her Duke of Edinburgh's awards.

I felt it was deliberately a short service because of the Queen's health, otherwise there would have been many more tributes.

Kurt Hahn was founder and headmaster of Gordonstoun school, he pioneered various new ideas about education and also set up the Outward Bound scheme, as well as founding other schools.
The DofE Award was his idea.

Philip may have agreed to chair the Award scheme, but it was John Hunt who designed it, set it up and ran it for the first ten years of its existence.

The DofE main website generously gives some credit to Philip, but does make it clear that it was Hahn's idea and Hunt's work.

timetogo2016

Not one of the nicest posts imo.
But it`s who`s there that matters,not who isn`t.

Which post ?

Aveline

To a charity

Ah, bless him. He's a saint, that one.

To believe that Andrew is without any responsibility in the sex scandal is very naive! He obviously had no strong defence or else he would not have been forced to make a huge out of court settlement. He was a good friend of two convicted sex offenders and is pictured with them and teenage girls who it is known were groomed.
I do not think he should not have been at his father's memorial service. That would be unkind.
I think it was misplaced to show that solidarity so clearly by him arriving so publicly with his mother. Not sure Mrs Whitehouse would have thought it a good idea!

He should have been there, but not in the way it was done,imo.

IMO no one has ever had the right to tell a family how they should conduct a memorial service before.
Perhaps there should now be a handbook to help those planning memorial services so as not to offend anyone who isn’t actually involved.

Mollygo

IMO no one has ever had the right to tell a family how they should conduct a memorial service before.
Perhaps there should now be a handbook to help those planning memorial services so as not to offend anyone who isn’t actually involved.

Only if they represent the nation and want to have the memorial service on TV.

Oh, and if they want us to pay for it.

Write the handbook Volver.

I regard myself as "religious but not christian" so I have no strong feelings about the various churches and their vestments. Ive often had long debates with people of different faiths about their beliefs.

I enjoyed what I saw of the service and all the dignitaries arriving. I was impressed by the young woman who won the DofE gold award as I always am by people who come from a non privilaged background and who make their own opportunities.

One of the interviwees said that the tie he wore in dark green with diagonal stripe had been designed by Prince Philip for his staff. It was being worn by many of his old staff members and for that reason has been chosen by some of the women, including HM.

FGS, Prince A drew escorted his elderly bereaved mother from her car to her seat, he then did it in reverse, hardly high profile! He is her son and she loves him, as most of us do. He didn't push himself forward in any way just an act of kindness between mother and son at a memorial for her dead husband and his dead father. Prince Andrew has never ever trashed the RF, given interviews that were total lies about the RF, and never refused the Queen sight of his children causing her much heartache. There are far worse people connected to the RF than Prince Andrew.

Agree Jabberwok