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Prince Louie going through THAT stage

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BlueBelle Tue 07-Jun-22 14:55:21

That was a right old strop prince Louie pulled off watching the parade with poor Kate trying to be firm in the midst of the worlds eyes He pulled faces, he thumbed his nose tried to smack her face a few times I think that he needed the naughty step , I wonder if that’s where he went when they got home He’s obviously ‘the character’ in the family

Joseanne Wed 08-Jun-22 19:09:35

merlotgran

Joseanne

And where were Grandma and Grandpa Middleton when you needed them? grin

They were there but further back with Pippa.

Oh I missed that?
I definitely saw them at the evening concert but not at the pageant. They must have been up in the Gods.

Pantglas2 Wed 08-Jun-22 19:10:57

We were out celebrating Wales win against Ukraine late on Sunday evening and some Spanish families were eating out with their very young children. They were overtired, running around the terrace, screaming at each other and throwing toys ? around.

None of us mothers/grandmothers batted an eye but some of our husbands did - I wonder why (most) mothers are understanding and the menfolk not so much?

“A mother’s place is in the wrong” is the old standby isn’t it?

Curlywhirly Wed 08-Jun-22 20:23:26

paddyann54

Do tell Curlywhirly if this was a child in a supermarket behaving like that to his mother ,would your reaction be the same ?
Or would single mother ,brat ,no discipline ..future ned ,be what would spring to mind ?

My reaction to a child behaving as Louis did would have nothing to do with what class the child's parents were (if that is what you are implying). If you knew me, you would know that I am the last person to be judgemental, especially where children are concerned. Oh and by the way, I was brought up on a council estate by a single mother. We had little discipline as my Mum was always working; me and my siblings brought ourselves up. We all turned out to be respectful, law-abiding citizens. I don't judge.

Mallin Wed 08-Jun-22 22:01:21

It’s wonderful being a great grandmother. I no longer even have to hand kids back as I use the same excuse for not having kids or dogs.
“Im too old to manage dogs or kids”
Hope kids parents never find out about the 2 dogs I look after to give neighbours a weekend away!!!!!

Callistemon21 Wed 08-Jun-22 23:06:05

volver

^Ah don’t worry volver a solution would be to check before you go anywhere that there are not any neurodivergent folks attending.^

We were there first. Maybe they should have checked.

Wasn't it half-term last week?

We do try to avoid school holidays now, although there is often the inevitable school trip, planned for a day when they know DH and I will be visiting.

volver Thu 09-Jun-22 06:20:38

Aw, how sweetly Anglo-centric you are ?

Joseanne Thu 09-Jun-22 06:33:13

I am dismayed that a thread about a child's misbehaviour turned so unpleasant, (as did the Lili photo one). I know some posters, me included, like the sound of their own voice on GN, and some have strong opinions, but I do think it best to be careful with stuff concerning very young children. It is so corrosive and you don't know where it will lead and who can be very upset.

volver Thu 09-Jun-22 06:41:04

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Joseanne Thu 09-Jun-22 06:44:14

Good.
True colours aren't always beautiful .... anyone's.

volver Thu 09-Jun-22 06:44:49

Well that helped.

Willow68 Thu 09-Jun-22 07:14:56

He was well behaved for a young boy that sat for hours, also he would of been there for hours before. Why is so much being mad if this, Kate done an amazing job, the world watching a boy being a boy, Royal or not, his just a youngster that is bored and wants to run around and play.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 09-Jun-22 07:18:08

I agree Willow68

Lucca Thu 09-Jun-22 07:30:22

I’m a tad bored now …lots of talk of visiting fancy restaurants and a small boy being naughty.

Yes I know….”don’t come on and comment then”

Too many royal threads…

volver Thu 09-Jun-22 09:08:30

I feel I have one more thing to say before this thread moves on or stops altogether. Its really addressed to those who think I have a lack of empathy or for whom this thread is making them weep.

I don’t go to a park and expect children to be sitting quietly reading a book. I don’t go to a swimming pool and expect children to be swimmingly rigidly in lanes. I expect children to act like children – shouting, running around, whatever. If I see a child having a meltdown, or behaving in a way that suggests they may be neurodivergent, I don’t “tut” and I don’t suggest they are given a lolly. I resent the implications that people who share the ideas I’m about to write about are thoughtless “tutters”.

When I go to a place that is not intended for running around and shouting, I don’t expect to experience any running around and shouting to such an extent that it spoils it for me. If you are looking after a child or two that cannot behave in a "typical" way in those places, I won’t be standing around tutting. But similarly, if you are taking 10 or so children to a public place where other people, children and adults, have made an effort to get there and experience it in a quiet and adult way, I expect you to think of the consequences. If all the children are neurodivergent and likely to be loud and uncontrolled, then I’m sorry if this is seen as wrong, but by taking a large group to a relatively small venue you are placing unfair responsibilities on other people. Or, if your 10 children are “just” badly behaved, then you are not showing any respect or consideration for other visitors.

Its grossly unfair to blame people who are trying to have a normal day out for not being sufficiently understanding.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 09-Jun-22 09:12:39

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Callistemon21 Thu 09-Jun-22 10:05:45

volver

Aw, how sweetly Anglo-centric you are ?

What does that mean?

What an odd comment as I live in Wales.

Pantglas2 Thu 09-Jun-22 10:05:57

So who knew the republicans are less tolerant of not just, certain not all, misbehavin royalty but ordinary folks youngsters as well?

Lawdy, I’d hate to be such a curmudgeon that my entitlement came before tolerance in a difficult situation involving innocent children.

We were all young once and the more honest of us will admit to not always have been well behaved in public!

annsixty Thu 09-Jun-22 10:06:41

I am sure I have posted this before but here goes.
On year we were away on our wedding anniversary and chose to go to a lovely restaurant near to where we were staying.
It was very quiet, only us in at that early time.
A young couple came in with a baby in a carry cot.
The baby started screaming and screamed throughout the meal.
It was really awful
When they fortunately left , we remarked on it to the server.
She said the H has just picked his wife and newborn baby up from the maternity hospital and they has called on their way home to celebrate.
It was an expensive ruined evening for us and if they had any sense or decency they would have left.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Jun-22 10:09:52

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Germanshepherdsmum Thu 09-Jun-22 10:16:34

What a rotten experience Annsixty. The last thing I would have wanted to do on my way home from the maternity hospital. A takeaway and settling the baby into its new home would have been infinitely preferable.

Glorianny Thu 09-Jun-22 10:24:22

Never mind your ruined meal I'd be seriously concerned about a couple who ignored a screaming new born while they ate a meal. In fact I would probably have asked if they'd like me to try holding the baby for a bit. (I can't listen to a baby screaming, mine or anyone elses)

GrannyGravy13 Thu 09-Jun-22 10:28:57

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GrannyGravy13 Thu 09-Jun-22 10:29:49

annsixty the poor little baby

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 09-Jun-22 10:34:41

Probably needed a cuddle and feeding/changing. What sane person would call into a restaurant for a nice celebratory meal on their way back from the maternity hospital? I wouldn’t have offered to cuddle it, I’d have made my feelings known to the parents and the management.

TerriBull Thu 09-Jun-22 10:38:38

An incredibly long thread apropos of Louis merely acting like a typical 4 year old boy. His situation was unique in that he had to be part of the ceremony and expecting him to behave in a more grown up and restrained manner was unreasonable. Catherine dealt with his display of understandable boredom well, I admit I found him amusing it retrospectively resonated and wouldn't have wanted to be Catherine. Under the circumstances of him being forced into a situation that wasn't conducive to his age group, I think it's unfair to criticise.

Having said that I also sympathise with diners for example, out for a really nice meal which is ruined by children making a noise and running riot. Parents should consider others when they take their offspring into an adult environment. We always told ours, when we did take them to restaurants, "this is a treat, don't ruin it for the other people here, or we won't bring you again" books and colouring books did the trick and kept them quiet, in that respect they never let us down.