Why report so much ?

Doodledog

It isn't one thread, SD. We are taking about threads about trans issues. There are, and have been several in N&P, although there are many other topics in that forum too.

Ah, thank you.

Lucca wrote One thread only was objected to not “some threads”

I wish Lucca would say which is the thread that she claims is the only thread.

Doodledog

*Sometimes, a strongly expressed opposing view can be perceived as a personal attack when that is not the intention.*

Exactly.

I don't agree. One poster deliberately attacks anyone with an opposing view and puts them down, often twists what they say to make it seem they are the bad guy. I've seen them do that to lots of posters. It always gives the thread an unpleasant tone.

If you see that Chestnut I recommend reporting it and GNHQ, as I said, should be able to decide whether it truly is a personal attack or not.

I don't agree with those who think reporting is "snitching" which shouldn't be done.
Neither does GNHQ as you'd see in Michael's post

I don't report anything. As I said, it's only right that the thread can be followed and people can judge what they read for themselves. They can then make up their own minds on what people are doing or saying to others.

Chestnut

Doodledog

Sometimes, a strongly expressed opposing view can be perceived as a personal attack when that is not the intention.

Exactly.

I don't agree. One poster deliberately attacks anyone with an opposing view and puts them down, often twists what they say to make it seem they are the bad guy. I've seen them do that to lots of posters. It always gives the thread an unpleasant tone.

Yes, that can happen on any thread, and I agree that it is nasty.

However, what FarNorth says is also true - I don't think the things are mutually exclusive.

Yes Chestnut I'm in favour of letting things be seen too.
I would report something if I thought it was a deliberate personal attack, tho, and let GNHQ decide what to do.
GNHQ might then see, as Michael explained, that the person has been breaking guidelines repeatedly.

Hi and thanks to those of you who have sent kind words of welcome and guidance. I've followed this conversation as best I can without knowing fully or at all who has or may have done what and when, and am amazed at the amount of effort that has gone into it. We should all be following the rules and its up to us as individuals to choose to report or simply ignore instances where we believe the rules have been broken. If we make a mistake then surely we should be able to apologise and then return after some time out if necessary. If we keep making the same mistakes then we should probably be told to leave and not be allowed to return. Either that or have no rules at all and just allow a free for all, which would probably result in a lot of decent folk withdrawing and all the bullies fighting with each other, which might be amusing to follow without intervening! I will now take a look at some of the other conversations and see if I can spot any of the serial misbehaviours or multiple users mentioned earlier.

Lucca
Separately, several Gransnetters brought concerns around bullying and harassment to our attention because they have been upset by the tone set on many threads and felt reluctant to post as a result.
Direct quote from Gransnet who have an overview of all threads and all complaints.
Obviously I don't know to which thread you refer or the member who has chosen to leave, but in common with many posters I have noticed the taunting and harassment on some threads conducted by the same small group of people, and it has been both unnecessary and unpleasant.

Welcome to Gransnet Baggytrazzas
Not the best thread to start on

It's reassuring to know that a newcomer will be alert to any of our misdemeanors on threads.

Will you be reporting anything you find amiss?

Doodledog

It isn't one thread, SD. We are taking about threads about trans issues. There are, and have been several in N&P, although there are many other topics in that forum too.

Yes, exactly. But it is possible to disagree and not be aggressive. It's why I refuse to post on those threads now, because 'challenging' turns into 'attacking' and some posters can't avoid turning them into personal attacks and demands for answers to questions. No one is obliged to fulfill the demands of another poster and it's crazy that anyone would think others are obliged to.

Whatever happened to agreeing to disagree and polite debate? I know it's an emotive topic, but we're adults.

I hope you're right, about the member I'm referring to not leaving. But I definitely know of others who have left. Not because of the trans forums, but due to some of the banned members constant hounding and insulting.

I've reported bullying or racist/xenophobic (or very offensive) stuff tbh. I don't care who it is and I don't care if that makes me snitch

I have reported some victim blaming stuff about young women. I think that it. Oh other than obvious trolls.

I am a lone wolf and don't operate in a pack. I have no time or desire to do so and anyway, the cats are in charge

Quite an unusual wolf then

You flatterer, you. Maybe I'm a badger having an identity crisis

Nah Jane, you’re a Viking Wolf Warrioress!

Oh yes, I'll take that..my very own owl bodyguard

JaneJudge

I've reported bullying or racist/xenophobic (or very offensive) stuff tbh. I don't care who it is and I don't care if that makes me snitch

Great attitude. I agree with it.

Gaga, I’m not being drawn into this. When I said that N&P doesn’t deserve it’s reputation for unpleasantness I meant it. On the whole it does not, although like on any other forum there are occasional spats.

We disagree on one issue, and I absolutely disagree that you are a victim on threads about it. This is not the place to rehash old arguments, which is anyway against the rules. I am leaving it there.

I think the N and P threads are generally absolutely fine. I think it's a default setting to blame that forum. Were these bannings on the N and P forum?

Doodledog

*Gaga*, I’m not being drawn into this. When I said that N&P doesn’t deserve it’s reputation for unpleasantness I meant it. On the whole it does not, although like on any other forum there are occasional spats.

We disagree on one issue, and I absolutely disagree that you are a victim on threads about it. This is not the place to rehash old arguments, which is anyway against the rules. I am leaving it there.

I am 100% not a victim. This isn't personal at all.

My point is about attacking others. It happens. And it shouldn't. This is not the place (not that anywhere is really).

Just putting in my twopenneth - I know for a fact that at least one poster has been unjustly banned. Reporting to HQ does not always end in the correct result.

Galaxy

I think the N and P threads are generally absolutely fine. I think it's a default setting to blame that forum. Were these bannings on the N and P forum?

It happens on many forums. Some posters just cannot debate even the most light hearted issue without put downs and unpleasantness.
Others seem to have mood swings. Jolly and cheerful some days and bitter and rude other days. I realise they may have problems and worries but so do many of us, and using other posters, about whose lives you know little, as a punch bag on days when you're feeling low or unwell simply isn't fair.

Galaxy

I think the N and P threads are generally absolutely fine. I think it's a default setting to blame that forum. Were these bannings on the N and P forum?

No they were not (as I have already said )
I’m
Not saying which thread as many are perfectly aware

Exactly Vintagejazz.