Prince Harry’s speech

So what do you expect maddyone? Everybody to stop flying? That's not going to happen.

The hypocrisy is with governments who say all the right things about climate change, and then plan for new coal mines and new oil fields. The governments who try to convince us that net zero is a bad idea because of those pesky Chinese and their power stations. The governments that try to tell us that we can't afford to change because there isn't enough money.

That's the hypocrisy.

Anyway, way off topic now.

I know !

No the hypocracy lies exactly where it stems from, ie those who say one thing but live another. Who ever 'they' are.

Namsnanny

No the hypocracy lies exactly where it stems from, ie those who say one thing but live another. Who ever 'they' are.

Like Prince Charles famous for his environmental views who took over 20 private flights last year, mostly short journeys within the UK.

OK, so I did some calculations.

20 return UK flights on private jets, around 2,000 tonnes of CO2.

UK total carbon footprint in 2020 - 405.5 million tonnes. Equivalent to 37 million private jet flights.

We really need to start focussing on the big stuff, not obsessing about private jets.

volver you say 'The red tops at work with misinformation again' ..............

you must try reading The Times, The Telegraph ect.

ect?

You didn't find that in the Times.

volver

So what do you expect maddyone? Everybody to stop flying? That's not going to happen.

The hypocrisy is with governments who say all the right things about climate change, and then plan for new coal mines and new oil fields. The governments who try to convince us that net zero is a bad idea because of those pesky Chinese and their power stations. The governments that try to tell us that we can't afford to change because there isn't enough money.

That's the hypocrisy.

Anyway, way off topic now.

What would you do, then?

Well seeing as you ask...

Invest in renewable energy sources. Subsidise net zero transport. Educate people about what's important. Don't artificially support carbon-intensive industries. Hence build up an expertise in these positive areas that we can sell to the rest of the world.

Simples.

Good answer Volver

Wasn’t Boris committed to net zero?

Like I said: hypocrisy.

"Yes, net zero, that's the thing, definitely." says Mr Johnson.

Allows licences for new coal mine in Cumbria and new oilfield in the North Sea.

My view of Harry's speech was that it was empty of content, didnt reflect the requirement, was delivered competently, but without Harry's usual energy. Which he seems to have lost more and more over time.

Yes, he seems to have lost a lot of his joie de vivre. Could be the responsibilities of a family, and having to persist in doing things he is not naturally good at, so as to keep an income coming in.

Oh, I watched it even though I said I wouldn't. To start with I thought I had the wrong speech because it bore no relation to some of the criticisms of it on here. I swear, if Harry had come up with the Gettysburg Address there would be posters here saying he had made it too short ?

If his overall demeanour (footage of him sitting waiting to speak, and group photos after) at the UN building, is anything to go by, he was having a particularly bad day!

Whilst I dislike with avengence his ridiculous rubbishing of his family, I am beginning to feel just a smidgen of empathy for him.
Jumping from the frying pan into the fire, and chickens coming home to roost, springs to mind.

Just wanted to say I find it strange to be bothered by a couple holding hands. Can’t think of anything that affects us less. I get that some weren’t raised in affectionate environments but it’s just weird to even care. I chuckled out loud at the quip about the Queen not doing it. As if anyone looks to model their marriages after the RF. How very odd lol

Elegran

Yes, he seems to have lost a lot of his joie de vivre. Could be the responsibilities of a family, and having to persist in doing things he is not naturally good at, so as to keep an income coming in.

I don't think he's a natural public speaker.
Despite everything he does and has done, he seems to lack confidence.

Callistemon21

Elegran

Yes, he seems to have lost a lot of his joie de vivre. Could be the responsibilities of a family, and having to persist in doing things he is not naturally good at, so as to keep an income coming in.

I don't think he's a natural public speaker.
Despite everything he does and has done, he seems to lack confidence.

So why does he put himself through it then?
We know he flinches at every camera click, he told us so and we can see he is really nervous, so I can't understand why he puts himself in these situations. It can't be good for his BP.

He has changed so much in 4 years , he had lived his life with
much support and protection, even had Gurkha guards when in the army.

Pre his marriage Harry was generally regarded with affection, and his mishaps were tolerated.
Since his marriage he has antagonised many by his behaviour, and while he is very obviously not a good public speaker he has to follow the self-promotion trail because at present he has very little else to offer.
I sincerely hope he is not going to persist with his book and attempt to rake up yet more unpleasantness which will ultimately rebound on him.

That apparently is the case Annie, it is so sad to see the change in Harry. His memoirs are now set to come out at Christmas. Poor Queen, hasn't she had enough to put up with from these two in her twilight years without, what could be her last Christmas overshadowed by this latest offering. I just don't understand how Harry can keep doing this to his 96 year old grandmother who loves him and whom he purports to love?This type of cruelty is beyond me whoever the family is, how can anyone preach kindness when their actions are so unkind for no apparent reason. Baffling.

Apparently the Queen has invited them to Balmoral to visit her. And after all this nasty stuff he's done to her too, who would have thought it?

Baffling.

The Queen is a very forgiving person and would love to have her family round her however much they try to make her life a misery. However, It is not certain that this invitation has been extended to the Sussex's, rumour is rife. Unless the security issue is sorted to Harry's satisfaction they wouldn't come any way.

Ooohhh, have you met her Jaberwok? To know so much about her character, you must have met her and be on good terms with her, I should think?

If the Queen is happy to have Harry and co around her, does that mean we can stop posting how awful it must be for her? Or are we just being patronising because she is old?