Phoenix's Curse

nadateturbe

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Why did everyone keep telling Honeysuckle she didn't get it instead of explaining. As if you were an exclusive group.
You spoilt the thread.

Perhaps because honeysuckle was extremely rude? There are ways of asking.

No, not an exclusive group at all, just many posters who remember phoenix fondly.

It's just puzzling why some people continue to post just to keep arguing and causing distress.

Oh for heaven’s sake! Enough of ‘who started it? She did. No, she did’ .. Just leave it will you? Let us remember our friend in peace.

Crossed posts Callistemon

Well said Blossoming so unnecessary at a time of fond remembrance.

Honeysuckle deserved an apology.
Time some people tried to listen and hear.
I've nothing more to add.

Callistemon21

^People were just asking for clarification - what’s wrong with that?^
Jumping in and attacking the OP wasn't just asking for clarification.

Asking for clarification would be: "I don't understand, could you explain please?"

This

StarDreamer

But the opening post did not say so.

There was no context other than what was in the post.

How was anyone expected to know the context?

By asking politely ? Pleasantly ?

SD. *It has been published.

Therefore it is A Matter of Public Interest.

Therefore the OP has opened the door for public comment on what the OP has chosen to publish*

So your view is that posters can comment how they wish on a thread without accusations of derailing ? Or being told to start another thread ? Good, that’s clarified then.

This thread may have been confusing at the start but it has been explained that apart from anything else the Curse poem was………..A JOKE !

kittylester

To be honest, it is nothing to do with anyone who didn't know Phoenix and is just reminiscing fir those of us who. So leave us alone.

But if only you'd explained. How could others know. Now we do ...

Lucca wrote

> So your view is that posters can comment how they wish on a thread without accusations of derailing ?

I did not write that.

There is a balance of what is reasonable and what is not, and there is an uncertainty as to the dividing line.

For example, there was a law case some years ago that may help to clarify.

A female actor performed in a play which the public could attend.

A newspaper sent a theatre critic and the newspaper published a review of the play.

Within the review there was comment about the size, shape or prominence of the female actor's bottom.

She complained to the newspaper. The newspaper took the line that the play was a performance that the public could attend, so they had a right to publish a review.

The dispute went to court.

The judge rules that as the play was open to the public, the newspaper had a right to post a review of the play.

However, although they had a right to comment upon their assessment of the performance, to express an opinion as to how well or otherwise the actor had expressed and interpreted the content of the play, they did not have a right to comment upon the shape or whatever of parts of her body as that was not about the play or her performance.

I consider that, given the way that the original post was presented to the public, no reference to it being in remembrance of someone, that it was entirely reasonable for the phrase "nasty thing" to be used about the text presented, and thus having been published, in the illustration.

That was a comment about the content of the original post.

I have tried to be objective about this, though as I too consider that the text in the illustration in the original post is nasty, that may have biased me.

I consider that the text having been written by a woman about a man is no excuse. There should be no "woman about a man" exemption to decency.

To clarify, if say, a thread were started on the topic of, say, Polish culture, it would not be reasonable, in my opinion, for someone to post, "Ah, culture, there is Spanish culture, that is a culture too, I'll post about Spanish culture in this thread."

> Or being told to start another thread ?

Well, if a claque arrives, then they can be politely asked to leave the theatre.

If this thread wasn’t ruined before it certainly has been now. That is totally uncalled for StarDreamer and not a little hypocritical. A dreadful way to behave in a thread celebrating a dead friend.

Now, I am lost.

What is a claque please?

Well, if a claque arrives, then they can be politely asked to leave the theatre

Are you politely asking those of us who want to reminisce about a lost friend to leave Gransnet, StarDreamer?

Sadly I think this thread should be closed.
What on earth would our dear friend Phoenix make of it?
Words fail me. Unlike ones trying to pick holes in the thread. So sad.

What is a claque please?

Definition:
a group of sycophantic followers.

I think we're being told to push off. Politely.

What on earth would our dear friend Phoenix make of it?
I think I know what she might be saying.

claque
/klak,klɑːk/
noun
noun: claque; plural noun: claques
1.
a group of sycophantic followers.
"she was surrounded by a claque of fawning admirers"
2.
a group of people hired to applaud (or heckle) a performer or public speaker.

Callistemon I concur. I now need a word for someone whose rudeness transcends all boundaries of decency while being cleverly wrapped in pretty words. Phoenix would indeed have had the best kind of riposte.

Nicely put, Shirley.

Re your comment at 12,18

Shirley48

Surely, instead of bring so rude and cliquey, someone could just politely explain that Phoenix a Gransnetter who sadly died a year ago, had a wacky sense of humour and wrote a spell to be used for errant sons in law.

Probably you are right, Shirley48

If someone is extremely rude it's best to explain the context carefully to them, not descend to their level of rudeness.

Callistemon21

^Well, if a claque arrives, then they can be politely asked to leave the theatre^

Are you politely asking those of us who want to reminisce about a lost friend to leave Gransnet, StarDreamer?

No, I was replying to Lucca.

In another thread, I suggested to some people that they could start another thread.

LINK > www.gransnet.com/forums/culture_arts/1313983-Virtual-cruise-from-Venice-along-the-river-Po-with-the-option-to-learn-some-Italian

I felt that the comment in this thread about starting another thread was a reference to that.

It's time this thread went, before even more upset is caused. I am amazed that, having been told that this thread was started in memory of a much missed lady, on the first anniversary of her death, people are still arguing the toss. Please, show some respect both to Phoenix and to those who loved her.

Blossoming

If this thread wasn’t ruined before it certainly has been now. That is totally uncalled for StarDreamer and not a little hypocritical. A dreadful way to behave in a thread celebrating a dead friend.

I felt that Lucca was implying that I am hypocritical and was referring to what happened in the following thread.

LINK > www.gransnet.com/forums/culture_arts/1313983-Virtual-cruise-from-Venice-along-the-river-Po-with-the-option-to-learn-some-Italian

So I clarified so as to respond to an attempt to represent my views in a sentence not written by me.

I wish - for many reasons - that Phoenix was still with us. Were she still posting, she’d have great fun with your posts, StarDreamer.
If you were attending a memorial event for someone, would you stand up and loudly say something like, “The wording on the sheet should be in Times Roman, not Comic Sans”?
You seem to me to not be showing respect for the lovely Phoenix, yet wish people to respect your lifestyle choices, such as veganism, at all times, in irrelevant ways

Have a lovely time on your cruise, StarDreamer
Hope the river Po has some water in it.

Ciao!