My first Karen

Shelflife

Sorry vampire queen but I feel she was justified in her outburst. I understand you our DH wanting to record such a wonderful concert so he could send to his friend in South Africa. He may well have moved to another position if she had said his phone was in her eye line ..... however that action would have out his phone in someone else's eyeline!
I fail to understand why people are incapable of attending a lovely concert without recording or taking pictures. Why not just sit , listen and appreciate?
The fault may lie in the organizers allowing people to record, the angry lady was understandably annoyed at the amount of distraction caused by phones recording and your DH was in the firing line. If I attend such a concert I expect to relax , listen and enjoy and not be distracted by people raising their phones !!!! The fact the lady would not be able to see anyway is beside the point . She wanted to listen in a serene environment and I don't blame her. Sorry but have little sympathy for you .

Totally agree.

He didn't have the phone lifted. It couldn't have been in her eyeline unless she was looking at his lap. He wasn't making any sound. He simply pressed the record button as the piece started and pressed it again to stop the recording. He didn't even move anything other than his thumb.

Joining in to help stop the mis-use of the name Karen. One of my best friends is Karen, and she is the most wonderful person you could meet.

Although the woman may have been a bit vocal in her complaint, I also feel she had the right to say something. Lights glowing from cell phones is annoying in theatres.

I dont really care what happened with the woman and the phone. I just dont like the association with Karen. VQ you also knew the term was offensive as you apologised before you used the using the name, so no excuse to post it.

My name is Karen and I have been at the receiving end of hurtful and derogatory remarks whilst in a restaurant with friends. I am a regular patron of the restaurant so the owner knows my name. Upon arrival at the restaurant, the owner showed us to our table and said "Nice to see you again, Karen" The person in question obviously heard my name mentioned. He was at a table next to us with his wife. Then the remarks started. I asked him to stop but he said that it was only a bit of fun. Even his wife kept telling him to stop. The owner heard what he was saying and went to his table and asked him to leave. As the couple went to leave he called me a nasty name that I could not repeat here. It was a distressing and humiliating incident. Even though I felt upset inside, I was not going to let the incident ruin my evening. Those that take the "Karen" thing as a joke, it really isnt. I was caught unawares that day but I'm on my guard now. Thank you for your support to those of us named Karen. Anyway, I like my name.

CanadianGran

Joining in to help stop the mis-use of the name Karen. One of my best friends is Karen, and she is the most wonderful person you could meet.

Although the woman may have been a bit vocal in her complaint, I also feel she had the right to say something. Lights glowing from cell phones is annoying in theatres.

All concerts, plays, etc, should request that phones are switched off and safely put away.

Ladyf

My name is Karen and I have been at the receiving end of hurtful and derogatory remarks whilst in a restaurant with friends. I am a regular patron of the restaurant so the owner knows my name. Upon arrival at the restaurant, the owner showed us to our table and said "Nice to see you again, Karen" The person in question obviously heard my name mentioned. He was at a table next to us with his wife. Then the remarks started. I asked him to stop but he said that it was only a bit of fun. Even his wife kept telling him to stop. The owner heard what he was saying and went to his table and asked him to leave. As the couple went to leave he called me a nasty name that I could not repeat here. It was a distressing and humiliating incident. Even though I felt upset inside, I was not going to let the incident ruin my evening. Those that take the "Karen" thing as a joke, it really isnt. I was caught unawares that day but I'm on my guard now. Thank you for your support to those of us named Karen. Anyway, I like my name.

It is a pretty name, now used by ass..... like the idiot in the restaurant in a derogatory manner.

I detest the way the word ‘Karen’ has been adopted as yet another way to deride and belittle women. I also detest people waving mobile phones around at concerts,

Hear, hear -from one Karen (and proud of it) to another

Any thread that opens with a misogynistic, stereotypical, bigoted title is probably not going to end well.
The woman was out of order. Recording and spoiling the enjoyment of others, regardless of whether it is allowed, is selfish and rude.
Oh, nobody's going to stop me so I'll do what I want regardless of the impact on others. Sorry, I have more sympathy with the woman, even if she handled it badly.

Did she introduce herself as Karen?

I'm another one who objects to the use of the name Karen as an insult.
We have a family member who is white, middle-aged, kind and lovely who is called Karen.
And a quiet and very kind neighbour with that name.

I think your DH was out of order, sorry.

HeavenLeigh

I don’t understand why people have to bring the name Karen into anything! Very disrespectful to all the people out there with this name, and by the way my name isn’t Karen! We have a Karen in our extended family who is sick to the back teeth of having her name ridiculed so immature

I think the Karens of the world will form a union of solidarity with all the Kevins, Charleys, Marthas and many more I'm sure whose names have been used as shorthand over the years.

My name isn't Karen either, but it does get used to imply a 'doormat' - I know this isn't directed at me personally!

OP it does sounds as though the lady was unable to deal with this rationally. What a shame she spoiled the evening for herself.

Bugger the recording nonsense - stop using the term Karen. I have really good friends called Karen.

Thank you Maw.

You’ve been hoist on your own petard, Vampirequeen. You sound as entitled as the woman at the concert and framing it around her being a ‘Karen’ makes it even worse.

I’ve known some kind and lovely Karens, in fact, I’ve never come across an unpleasant one.

SueDonim

You’ve been hoist on your own petard, Vampirequeen. You sound as entitled as the woman at the concert and framing it around her being a ‘Karen’ makes it even worse.

I’ve known some kind and lovely Karens, in fact, I’ve never come across an unpleasant one.

Well said SueDonim and thanks also to Maw and others for leading the charge in defending my name also. It riles me beyond belief that we have to follow yet another Americanisation trend

I too can’t bear the use of the word Karen used in a derogatory way if your husband only had his phone in his lap and no one could see it how did this lady know he was recording ?
No one should record during a show and most places are very hot on not allowing it
I think your husband was in the wrong and I think you are also in the wrong in your use of the nance
I m not called Karen but I m cross for all the Karens in the world

vampirequeen

He didn't have the phone lifted. It couldn't have been in her eyeline unless she was looking at his lap. He wasn't making any sound. He simply pressed the record button as the piece started and pressed it again to stop the recording. He didn't even move anything other than his thumb.

As she stormed up behind him was she holding a periscope?

^ The daft thing was that if she had simply told DH that she found his phone annoying because it was in her eyeline, he would have apologised and recorded from another position.^

That doesn't sound as though it was on his lap, it sounds like it could have been in her eyeline or why would need to apologise and move to another position.

My sympathies lie entirely with the woman who in my opinion was perfectly justified in complaining.

Why do people go to shows and concerts and then spend the entire time recording it on phones held aloft?
No wonder others get cross.

Just turn the blasted thing off, sit back quietly and enjoy the show.

Another example of entitlement.

I really do think mobile phones should not be allowed at concerts, shows or similar indoor events. Its very annoying to be sitting watching a lot of people taking photos, recording or even texting during a show It must also be annoying for the entertainers.

What an awful thing to say. I like the name Karen and I would certainly not have enjoyed the concert with someone recording it near me with their phone. Rude and disrespectful.

There’s a bit of backtracking going on here. First, if he had known the phone was in her eyeline he would have positioned it differently, then the phone was in his lap and he was just moving his thumb. Which is it? Somebody isn’t getting the replies they expected. ?

Perhaps she found it distracting and wondered what he was doing

I’m sure, not too long into the future, your friend in SouthAfrica will be able to see it on YouTube . Hope he does, Good luck !