kittylester
Bugger the recording nonsense - stop using the term Karen. I have really good friends called Karen.
Hear hear ?
I thought that we were over this pathetic and ignorant ‘Karen’ nonsense ?
Just stop it now
Apologies to all the nice ladies called Karen but today we met a 'Karen'.
We went to a lunchtime concert at Beverley Minster. It was the Berkshire Youth Symphony Orchestra and, if you ever get the chance, I can heartily recommend you go to see them.
DH was using his phone to record some of the music to send to a friend in South Africa who loves classical music. He wasn't the only person recording but Karen seemed to take offence to him alone. Half way through the concert she stormed up behind him and shouted (over the music) that he had ruined the concert for her because she couldn't see when he was recording. Now the layout was such that, unless you were on the first row, you wouldn't be able to see the orchestra anyway but apparently her lack of view was DH's fault. He hadn't done anything to affect her hearing of the music. After she shouted, and without giving him chance to reply, she stormed off and left the Minster. We, and people around us, burst out laughing.
The daft thing was that if she had simply told DH that she found his phone annoying because it was in her eyeline, he would have apologised and recorded from another position. Then she wouldn't have had to storm out and miss the second half of what was an incredibly good concert.
kittylester
Bugger the recording nonsense - stop using the term Karen. I have really good friends called Karen.
Hear hear ?
I thought that we were over this pathetic and ignorant ‘Karen’ nonsense ?
Just stop it now
People with their bloody phones everywhere annoy me too. But its not a new thing. Before that it was video and cine cameras. I can recall being on a holiday in the far east many years ago and one chap (who had a cine camera) thought he should always have the front seat in the car/jeep/boat so he could record. So we were all supposed to kowtow to him because he had an expensive camera? Yeah, right.
kittylester
Bugger the recording nonsense - stop using the term Karen. I have really good friends called Karen.
Absolutely
A concert is enjoyed partly because of audience participation in the occasion. It's bad manners to make a spectacle of yourself with a mobile phone camera while the concert is in progress .
MrB and I are going to be in Beverley towards the end of September, vamp. Do you know of any events (especially musical in a classic style) about then? I'd love to be able to fit one in during our visit.
Caleo
A concert is enjoyed partly because of audience participation in the occasion. It's bad manners to make a spectacle of yourself with a mobile phone camera while the concert is in progress .
And even worse manners to shout at another audience member during the performance.
That's true Baggs. Maybe she goes in for shouting at public venues. There might be a film play about her misadventures.
I too rile against the use of the name Karen as a pejorative short hand term.
You lost me with your disrespectful thread title by perpetuating this insulting Americanism of any woman named Karen. My family member and two close friends do not deserve having their name used as a slur or worse as experienced by Ladyf!
I feel for anyone to use a mobile phone during a classical concert, simply, bad manners and would spoil the event for me also.
It’s amazing how really decent people, who would condemn any other form of bullying without hesitation, will latch on to name-calling and not realise what it is and how hurtful it can be.
“Wally” caused one of my relatives a deal of misery.
varian
Was she actually called Karen? If not why label everyone with that unfortunate name as a difficult person?
Yes I wondered this too. The whole story could have been told and opinions given without the need to use the term 'Karen'.
I’m confused. I can understand that if she was sitting directly behind or within a couple of rows of you the light from the phone will have been distracting but if it was on his lap how could she see it? If she stormed up behind him that suggests she was sitting a little further away, again how would she have seen it if it was on his lap?
Nandad well it wasn’t in his lap in the original story it was in her eyeline
MawtheMerrier
What you do in your private life is your business, I would prefer you it if you stopped abusing me and any other Karens (I know at least one) on this site.
This. My lovely niece is Karen and sick of the non-joke
For what it’s worth, I believe mobile phones should be switched off during any performance, especially a live one
If you’re using your phone you must know it’ll be in somebody’s eye even if it’s that annoying light in the corner of your eye. You get that in cinemas and theatres a lot.
People think that because they’ve got it in their lap it’s not affecting anyone but it is.
We don’t have that Karen thing here. I actually think it is extremely rude and judgemental and I hope it never, ever comes here. If we recorded a concert on a phone we would get dropped on from a great height and probably asked to leave because of copyright issues. I am sure people do it but it is illegal .
BlueBelle exactly! I think OP realised how this was going down and had to tweak the story.
I hope that all those people who were recording the concert turned off the volume on the mobile phone in case it started ringing .
Really hate the use of calling people Karen and I would also have been annoyed. Sorry
“Wally” caused one of my relatives a deal of misery.
My old school friend was called Gay; she changed her name by deed poll in the 1970s. Shame because her name was lovely and it suited her.
I too have a lovely cousin-in-law called Karen, and like others I bristle at the name being used in a derogatory way. As for recording a concert? I suppose people should check first to see if this is allowed and if so, avoid going as inevitably this will be distracting, I know I would. Tbh I'm amazed it was allowed as anywhere we've been including our local Abbey, it most certainly is not and you would be asked to leave immediately if an attempt was made.
Oh dear, vampirequeen, it was lovely to see you back on GN but you seem to have touched a nerve with many of us.
Don't disappear again though.
I stopped being interested in if your DH was acting reasonably or not after you had used the name " Karen " to describe the woman in your post . It is incredibly rude and insulting to people with that name .
As an aside, it is so annoying when going to a good restaurant to have everyone taking photos of their food from every angle- standing up even, and walking around the table for best light.
Or is it just me?
Callistemon21
Oh dear, vampirequeen, it was lovely to see you back on GN but you seem to have touched a nerve with many of us.
Don't disappear again though.
Thanks Callistemon / hope you don’t feel too battened by the comments vampire
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