So now we know why the Queen died

Sadly, not every 96-year old gets the same consideration.

www.homecare.co.uk/news/article.cfm/id/1677356/Frightened-woman-aged-96-spends-40-hours-on-hospital-trolley

M0nica

Merlotgran there was nothing remarkably hastened about the Queen's death. It is quite common for someone of her age to have been drifting gently downhill for many months, as the Queen had since Prince Phillip died and then one morning not to wake up, or as in her case, suddenly tip over the edge, so that the family have to be sent for at speed.

Perfectly normal.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist but a stroke or sudden heart attack could have hastened the Queen’s death.

My mother was also 96 when she died so I’m not unfamiliar with the effects of old age.

This has become quite a long thread and my memory isn't the best but has anyone even suggested a conspiracy to see her off prematurely have they, Eloethan?

I think that the only thing people have questioned is that, after Harold Shipman, death by 'old age' is not used now on a death certificate and whether she might have had an underlying condition which has not been disclosed.

Whether it is anybody else's business is a different question altogether.

Well, here’s a thing. I had a phone call this morning to say a friend’s husband has died. He had a run-of-the-mill urine infection which was being treated at home.

Last night, he was already in bed while she went to get his last dose of AB’s of the day. When she came back, he was dead! ?

The GP came out and certified the death - I don’t know what was put as the cause - and they can now proceed with funeral arrangements.

Not the news I was expecting to have this morning, as you may imagine, though I didn’t really know him, just his wife.

Condolences SueDonim

Sorry to hear that SueDonim. Condolences to your friend.

I'm sorry to hear that SueDonim. I hope your friend has family near to support her and I'm sure you will do what you can to help.


UTIs can be dangerous if not treated promptly.

I have pmd you.

My condolences to you and to your friend SueDonim. A terrible shock. ?

Icanhandthemback Conspiracy theories are not far away when people post things like "do you really think they will ever tell their subjects the truth?" and "Well, something hastened her demise and it's normally mentioned, e.g., pneumonia, stroke, heart attack etc." and "Well, I think it’s strange that the real cause of death wasn’t mentioned either."

and "Well, something hastened her demise and it's normally mentioned, e.g., pneumonia, stroke, heart attack etc.

If you’re going to quote me, I have already said, my post was just an opinion/ observation - call it what you like but please NOT a conspiracy theory.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I think there is a far cry from thinking that the "old age" is unusual after Harold Shipman and "hastening her departure." I have no doubt it was natural causes and I suspect that everybody else on this thread does too from what I've seen. That is very different from wanting a more pinpointed reason.

Thank you for your thoughts. As I say, I didn’t know him well but am fond of his wife, who doesn’t keep good health. People will rally round to help, I’m certain.

Whatever the reason we aren’t to know bless. I guess she had had candula thing on hand ( the one for drips etc) as her frail hand is badly bruised as she shakes the PM hand. Guessing she was having tests

Yesterday I was reading a description of the death of the first Duke of Wellington, he who won the battle of Waterloo.

The circumstances were almost identical to those of the Queens, he had been fading slowly, as she was. He had a normal day, went to bed and in the morning it was clear that he had suddenly gone down hill overnight and that the end was near. The only member of the family present when he died, was a son, who was staying with him. No one else could get there in time.

Sounds very like what happened at Balmoral.

icanhandthemback

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I think there is a far cry from thinking that the "old age" is unusual after Harold Shipman and "hastening her departure." I have no doubt it was natural causes and I suspect that everybody else on this thread does too from what I've seen. That is very different from wanting a more pinpointed reason.

Agreed, ICHTB. I understand why, after Shipman, a more precise cause of death might be insisted on in most cases, but I also understand that ultimately it is a private matter.

The queen would not be surprised by this thread as she had a sense of humour
but, I think it is distasteful when Harold shipman is mentioned and an insult to relatives of those he killed.
lets leave it alone.

lemsip

The queen would not be surprised by this thread as she had a sense of humour
but, I think it is distasteful when Harold shipman is mentioned and an insult to relatives of those he killed.
lets leave it alone.

Of course, the relatives of those HS killed might actually support the notion that "Old Age" is not used as a catch all so others won't suffer what they did. He is only mentioned because it was his deeds that led to the call not to use this term on its own not because we want to glorify him.

Fleurpepper

We lived in digs in London. Servants' quarters under roof of Victorian 3 storey house, very steep stairs, damp, cold and miserable and very expensive compared to salary. Then we moved to Midlands and had awful digs linked to the job- dingy, damp, again, servants' quarters at the top of 5 storey building. And then we bought our first house in nice suburbs, but had absolutely nothing to put in it. 2.5 bed semi with nice corner garden. We got all second hand bits and bobs begged and borrowed. Make furniture with pallets and own bean bags, and own bed. New baby and no washing machine! Happy days.

Your comment has confused me somewhat, did you accidentally put it in the wrong thread or did I miss something?

I assumed our dear Queen Elizabeth died through lack of breath!
Brought on, no doubt, by missing her beloved Philip, and having to suffer the trials and tribulations of those around her.
Andrew and his shenanigans can't have helped, nor those of 'little-miss-I-need-to-be-in-the-spotlight-or-I'll-bring-out-the-racism-card'!!
She served us well, and I hope she's with her beloved Philip now and enjoying her deserved peace!!

That's very respectful.

And slightly hard to understand TBH

Not hard to understand, a woman is widowed, her grandson
criticises her as a mother,threatens with his tell all book, his wife lies in public, she has Covid,her son is involved with sleaze

But the Queen doesn’t have emotions, doesn’t love, doesn’t
grieve, doesn’t worry about family.

The Queen died through lack of breath!
Quite profound and satirical in one go.

Anniebach

Not hard to understand, a woman is widowed, her grandson
criticises her as a mother,threatens with his tell all book, his wife lies in public, she has Covid,her son is involved with sleaze

But the Queen doesn’t have emotions, doesn’t love, doesn’t
grieve, doesn’t worry about family.

Shed died of old age let’s please not attribute blame for her death to specific people, seriously

Anniebach

Not hard to understand, a woman is widowed, her grandson
criticises her as a mother,threatens with his tell all book, his wife lies in public, she has Covid,her son is involved with sleaze

But the Queen doesn’t have emotions, doesn’t love, doesn’t
grieve, doesn’t worry about family.

Tell you what's hard to understand.

96 year old lady dies of old age. Manages to get through the war, economic troubles in her country, the death of all her close relatives, the demise of the Empire.

Gives up the ghost because her grandson is a bit of a disappointment to the monarchists and her son is a wrong'un. ?