So now we know why the Queen died

Cross post Lucca !

Oh dear . Volver we’ll be accused of all sorts now because we randomly posted at same time ?

Weird. I’m just having a break from that Scandinavian clearance thing?

I was going to address you as wingman, but I thought better of it!! ?

How old does anyone think she should have been when she died, then, if nobody had ever upset her?

96.

That's how it works.

Anniebach

Not hard to understand, a woman is widowed, her grandson
criticises her as a mother,threatens with his tell all book, his wife lies in public, she has Covid,her son is involved with sleaze

But the Queen doesn’t have emotions, doesn’t love, doesn’t
grieve, doesn’t worry about family.

I think I can sort of see where Anniebach is coming from in that the Queen's emotions, about her offspring, may have mounted up to such an extent that her health was affected.
It is easy to appear serene in a demanding job, and it is possible to show concern for others while underneath your own family strifes are dragging you down and causing divided loyalties. I've been there, and health can suffer so much you wish to give up. Sometimes things work out fine, sometimes they don't, but there is a cost to your personal sanity where your children are concerned.

I'm sure the Queen muttered a few things about her son and grandson under her breath, who wouldn't? But what she lacked in those final years was someone to soak up her tears and disappointment. The younger royals obviously know how fragile mental health can be, I just wish there had been more consideration for grandma in all this.

MissAdventure

How old does anyone think she should have been when she died, then, if nobody had ever upset her?

Probably the same age she died at.
a) with longevity on her side (ie her mum)
b) with all the fantastic medical care she received

But what she lacked in those final years was someone to soak up her tears and disappointment.

What? Sentimental nonsense and projection.

No more sentimental and nonsensical than crying over a dance on Strictly!! You never know when feelings can bring you tears.

Crying over a dance on Strictly is a manifestation of feelings that are just sentiment. I agree.

Saying that one of the most powerful women in the world had no-one to "soak up her tears and disappointment" is just pure Mills and Boon and based on your interpretations of a life and character you know nothing about, other than what "they've" decided to tell you.

OK "in my opinion", see my paragraph I've been there and can draw parallels.

the most powerful woman in the world
You can be THE most powerful person in the world and still need a shoulder to cry on I would imagine

It's the phrase "soak up her tears and disappointment".

It's a symptom of the way we are conditioned to think of them, I think. That they are just like us, that their lives are some kind of Mills and Boon/Eastenders mix. It's not respectful to the person you are talking about, she's not your auntie.

I agree volver, silly thing to say. She had good friends and confidantes.

Germanshepherdsmum

I agree volver, silly thing to say. She had good friends and confidantes.

And very trustworthy they have been too, never uttered a peep.

Indeed. Very well chosen.

Agreed.

Good friends and confidantes are an assurance that one is
protected from grief, and hurt, ! Not true.

Of course not Annie, but the comment was in response to someone who said HM didn’t have a shoulder to sob on.

Nobody said that it did though Annie, did they?

But what she lacked in those final years was someone to soak up her tears and disappointment.

I can see where you're coming from Joseanne
Probably what she lacked in the last year was someone who might speak the truth to her, talk things through straightforwardly.
Someone who wasn't a son, a daughter, daughter-in-law, however kind they might be or a friend who might be worried about upsetting her however close they were.

ie Her husband. He had been ill, then died and she lost her main support.

‘He has,quite simply, been my strength and stay all these years’

I don’t know if she took this from a mills and boon book, never
read them, have read ‘A Grief Observed’, C.S.Lewis

An observation...

A criticism of the way someone talks about or describes the late Queen isn't equivalent to criticising the late Queen.

Yes Callistemon, I guess that was my thinking that she was banged up in the castle, (covid times), her husband dying, no one to properly talk to when she was scared or upset (weren't we all?) or maybe even in tears. "Soaking up tears" was just a bit of flowery language from me. Take it or leave it folks. Actually perhaps I could have been a good scriptwriter for Eastenders.

Anyway I'm glad she got to meet Paddington towards the end. He would have been a good confidant and given her a big bear hug. ?